AIR pump question
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Instructor
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From: Tempe AZ
AIR pump question
Is it possible/a good idea to get rid of that ugly AIR/smog pump? What exactly does it do and what what would happen if I got rid. Providing you guys tell me how to do it and its cheap :D
Racer
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Re: AIR pump question (Corvettaholic)
Nothing would really happen, it just cleans up the engine bay area. It's hooked up to the smog pump (which is for california emissions) and helps get rid of the unused air from the smog pump. So you can do what i did by just taking off the smog pump, you dont need it. Some have said it adds 2hp, but i just did it to clean up some space and get rid of those useless tubes. There's an air pump eliminator kit from Mid America Design for $169.99. It's basically a bracket and pulley, if you skilled in that area and wanted to save money maybe you could fabricate your own. Here's the link...
http://www.madvet.com/shop?frame=3.141.842
Good Luck
[Modified by -=Persephone=-, 6:10 PM 2/5/2004]
http://www.madvet.com/shop?frame=3.141.842
Good Luck
[Modified by -=Persephone=-, 6:10 PM 2/5/2004]
Race Director
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From: Sin City
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Re: AIR pump question (Corvettaholic)
Just becareful about smog inspections, I used to live in Glendale AZ and can't remember if they did visual inspections or not. Without the A.I.R. pump, your car would pass the sniffer test because its emissions impact is basically for the cold start and warm up phase. Your car will be fully warmed up by the time they hook you up for the sniffer test so eliminating the pump will have no effect on whether you pass or not.......unless they have a visual test to ensure that all smog equipment is still installed :skep:
Le Mans Master
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From: San Diego, Ca
Re: AIR pump question (Corvettaholic)
Fresh air pumped into the headers at start up is like an afterburner and helps to heat up the O2 for closed loop operation. If it won't go closed loop, you won't pass a sniffer test - among other things - so you may need a heated O2 if you eliminate it.
Drifting
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From: Beavercreek OR
Re: AIR pump question (Corvettaholic)
If you're looking for an AIR pump bypass kit don't overlook "Violater"s (Forum Member) piece. The price is good and it is a very strong looking set up at a good price. I just ordered one today. Bob is a good guy and it's gonna be en route tomorrow, already got the tracking #. Look for his post in the C4 parts section :cheers:
Drifting
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From: Minneapolis MN
Re: AIR pump question (86Moon)
If you're looking for an AIR pump bypass kit don't overlook "Violater"s (Forum Member) piece. The price is good and it is a very strong looking set up at a good price. I just ordered one today. Bob is a good guy and it's gonna be en route tomorrow, already got the tracking #. Look for his post in the C4 parts section :cheers:
Much better piece at a much better price.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=712153
Le Mans Master
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From: Santa Maria CA
Re: AIR pump question (Corvettaholic)
You can make your own pulley , and just keep your AIR Pump on hand to put back on for Emissions.
Here's how to make your own. http://rockfactory.co.uk/car/airpump.htm
Here's how to make your own. http://rockfactory.co.uk/car/airpump.htm
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Jul 2003
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From: Brisbane Queensland, Australia
Re: AIR pump question (Corvettaholic)
Easy enough, but fraut with dramas if you go the way I did and had one made!
Just search for the topic and you'll find all you need to know!
PS; a well tuned engine SHOULD pass your U.S. emmissions laws anyway; all the egr/air stuff really changes is the volume of air in the tailpipe, diluting the reading they do on your car, not actually producing less harmfull emmissions...
:cheers:
Just search for the topic and you'll find all you need to know!
PS; a well tuned engine SHOULD pass your U.S. emmissions laws anyway; all the egr/air stuff really changes is the volume of air in the tailpipe, diluting the reading they do on your car, not actually producing less harmfull emmissions...
:cheers:
Team Owner
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
Re: AIR pump question (smacko)
all the egr/air stuff really changes is the volume of air in the tailpipe, diluting the reading they do on your car, not actually producing less harmfull emmissions...
With that said, I have already removed all my smog equipment, cuz I'd rather have a clean looking engine compartment than clean air. Who wants to live forever anyways? :smash:
Burning Brakes
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From: Brisbane Queensland, Australia
Re: AIR pump question (CentralCoaster)
And not to re-open an OLD debate, but the consensus that to run all this extra equipment uses more fuel hence more pollution...
As a mechanical engineer I knew many years ago said "...pollution caused by this pollution garbage they put on them" there was more (I taped it) but it was funny as crap to listen to...
As a mechanical engineer I knew many years ago said "...pollution caused by this pollution garbage they put on them" there was more (I taped it) but it was funny as crap to listen to...
Melting Slicks
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From: Henryville IN
Re: AIR pump question (86Moon)
Yep you cant beat Bobs bypass bracket. Super nice guy to deal with. Contact him if your considering removing it. His looks better then the 2 rods that are out there.
Bob"Violater"Moss
Dragons Breath Performance
Knoxville, Tn. 37920
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Bob"Violater"Moss
Dragons Breath Performance
Knoxville, Tn. 37920
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Team Owner
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
Re: AIR pump question (smacko)
And not to re-open an OLD debate, but the consensus that to run all this extra equipment uses more fuel hence more pollution...
[Modified by CentralCoaster, 1:48 PM 2/6/2004]
Burning Brakes
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From: Brisbane Queensland, Australia
Re: AIR pump question (CentralCoaster)
...Betcha your room mate drive a Honda civic! hehehe
I don't give a rats **** either; it took a lot of double checking to make sure I was removing the right stuff, but yes; tidyness was worth it AND I did notice marginally better fuel economy; tell your roomie that better economy = less pollution!
:party:
I don't give a rats **** either; it took a lot of double checking to make sure I was removing the right stuff, but yes; tidyness was worth it AND I did notice marginally better fuel economy; tell your roomie that better economy = less pollution!
:party:
