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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:33 PM
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Default Front Lower Ball Joint Removal/Install Tips Please!

Just as it says, I need to replace a front driver's side ball joint. I only have about 2-3 days to get it done (don't see how I can't get it done in half a day easy though, but then again thats why I am here)

I know I can just remove the A-Arm and take it to a shop and have it pressed in.

But what if I want to do it all myself?
How/Tips/Tricks?

Thanks guys, I am gonna be a little rushed on this one!
TIA
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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I feel your pain on this job. I need to do mine as well. Instead of getting new ball joints, I bought new lower A-arms (Mid America, $149 per side). Anyway, here is a site that another member posted about how to lower your Vette, it has some great info on how to remove the tension on the spring to be able to remove the lower A-Arm: http://webpages.charter.net/khasting.../lowering.html
You may want to replace your bushings as well, since you have the arm off the car.
Good luck!!
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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Just as it says, I need to replace a front driver's side ball joint. I only have about 2-3 days to get it done (don't see how I can't get it done in half a day easy though, but then again thats why I am here)

I know I can just remove the A-Arm and take it to a shop and have it pressed in.

But what if I want to do it all myself?
How/Tips/Tricks?

Thanks guys, I am gonna be a little rushed on this one!
TIA
Yes. And I'm speaking from experience. Take the control arm off and take it down to a brake shop. Unless you have a press at home, you will aggravate yourself needlessly. And those rivets don't drill out easily as the shop manual would have you believe....it took a pneumatic chisel to get them off.

The $25 the brake shop charged me to press out the old ball joint and press the new one in was the bargain of the century.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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I just did my car and my brothers. I bought the ball joints from ecklers. Took them to the local machine shop and they charged $20 per ball joint to press in the new. I followed the details in the haynes manual. The good news is after you do it once, the second time its a breeze.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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So there is no way to do the lower one (it isn't riveted right?), without removing the A-arm?

Thanks for the info so far!
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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Lower one is pressed in, upper one is riveted. You could probably try to do it without removing, but GOD isn't going to like the language you use!!! :lolg:
Hardest part of removing the arm is removing the tension from the spring. After that, it should be easy.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Front Lower Ball Joint Removal/Install Tips Please! (USAsOnlyWay)

So there is no way to do the lower one (it isn't riveted right?), without removing the A-arm?

Thanks for the info so far!
Ahhhh my bad...should have seen "lower" in the thread title. I won't say there is "no way" to do it without removing the control arm, but you still need it pressed in. Save yourself some grief... remove the arm and take it to a brake shop.


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:lolg:
Thats why I do the work on saturday, so I can go to church sunday and get out of the dog house!

So how long then to pull an a-arm then?
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:lolg:
Thats why I do the work on saturday, so I can go to church sunday and get out of the dog house!

So how long then to pull an a-arm then?
Less than half an hour. And look at the bright side, you can shine it up while it's off. Here's a pic of my upper arm.





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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 05:09 PM
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Alright, thats no big deal then. Hopefully I can find one of those 10-20$ shops to do the press in too.

Thanks guys!
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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I changed both my lowers in half a day using a free rental tool from AutoZone. I did them with the arms still on the car.

The uppers were a piece of cake; just drilled out the rivets and used the nuts and bolts that came with the new ones to do the install. Make sure you use a drill bit intended for metal, not wood, and that it's sharp.

I don't understand why some seem to have problems changing the uppers. I've changed them on other models too, and all were easy.

Removing the old lower ones was pretty easy, it was getting the new ones started that took the time.

The trick is to make sure the new ball joint is perfectly centered in the "A" arm hole before you begin tightening the press on tool. Once the new ball joint beings to go in, it's just a matter on arm strength.

Jake
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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Alright, thats no big deal then. Hopefully I can find one of those 10-20$ shops to do the press in too.

Thanks guys!
Oh, stop by Auto Zone and borrow a ball joint fork before you get started.
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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Lower one is pressed in, upper one is riveted. You could probably try to do it without removing, but GOD isn't going to like the language you use!!! :lolg:
Hardest part of removing the arm is removing the tension from the spring. After that, it should be easy.
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Yep, :iagree:
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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Default Re: Front Lower Ball Joint Removal/Install Tips Please! (Frizlefrak)

I had to replace both lower ball joints several years ago and having purchased the press for U-joints found that it also had fixtures for ball joints. I did not remove the lower arms and was able to fashion a ball joint splitter with a bolt, two nuts and a washer to press on the ball joint studs. Took between and hour and an hour and a half to do both sides. Spent most of the time trying to get the press and all the fittings needed to stay together until I could get some pressure on them. Definitely doable in the garage, but you gotta have the right tool.
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