Canton Pan is on!
Burning Brakes
Joined: Nov 2001
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From: Houston TX
Re: Canton Pan is on! (93Quasar)
I didn't want to trust any dipstick. I filled the pan with oil before putting it on the engine and it took 6.5 quarts to go up to the windage tray. I'm running a 1/2 quart filter, so I put 7 quarts in. After first fill, I put my own mark on the dipstick knowing I had the right amount of oil in. 8.25 quarts seems like too much, unless you have a huge filter or cooling system.
my filter is significantly bigger, i can pour in 8/10ths of a quart before spinning it on. i suspect it takes another 2/10s once the engine runs and purges it completely. so your 6.5 in the pan plus 1 quart in the filter means i should try 7.5.
-michael
Drifting
Joined: Jul 1999
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From: Brighton, MI
Re: Canton Pan is on! (MSR)
That's what I would do. I wouldn't just fill based on what the dipstick shows. The Canton pan is a total different shape so you really should recalibrate your dipstick. If you fill it any higher than the windage tray, you are just giving the crank a splash bath, and defeating the purpose of the tray. Now at speed not all of the oil is in the pan, but I see no reason to have more than 7-7.5 quarts in there unless you have a super high volume oil pump that would suck a canton pan dry :eek: .
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jun 2000
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From: Tampa Florida
Re: Canton Pan is on! (MSR)
Trust...no.
More specificly since you asked nicely...
When I received the pan I did what the above folks did-filled it up with water in quart increments until it was at the lower edge of the windage tray. That was 6.5 quarts. I then added the PF52 filter amount ~.5 quart. I then installed it on a fresh/dry engine, added 7 quarts and then to add some cushion for the kids, when I did my next oil change, I drained all I could, filled it again with 7 quarts and noted the dipstick mark-called that my 'full of oil' mark-I'm guessing it ended up 7.25 quarts-the 7 I added, plus the .25 or so that is stuck in the galleys, heads, valley, lifters, etc.
I don't why folks would not want to use the OEM dipstick. It works and sure beats crawling beneath the car to check oil...I could see me dropping it in the dirt or something...:)
More specificly since you asked nicely...
When I received the pan I did what the above folks did-filled it up with water in quart increments until it was at the lower edge of the windage tray. That was 6.5 quarts. I then added the PF52 filter amount ~.5 quart. I then installed it on a fresh/dry engine, added 7 quarts and then to add some cushion for the kids, when I did my next oil change, I drained all I could, filled it again with 7 quarts and noted the dipstick mark-called that my 'full of oil' mark-I'm guessing it ended up 7.25 quarts-the 7 I added, plus the .25 or so that is stuck in the galleys, heads, valley, lifters, etc.
I don't why folks would not want to use the OEM dipstick. It works and sure beats crawling beneath the car to check oil...I could see me dropping it in the dirt or something...:)
Burning Brakes
Joined: Nov 2001
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From: Houston TX
Re: Canton Pan is on! (No Go)
thanks for the info, and my apologies if i came across in any way other than matter-of-factly. (i wasn't sure if your "since you asked nicely" comment was meant as a jab or not.)
does your oil level sensor read properly? mine inconsistently reads the level as being too low since the pan went on. the light comes on more often than not, actually, and i can't see a pattern between how long the engine sits and whether or not it complains. i also bought a new sensor, same problem. this was part of the reason i thought maybe i should be setting the level as the stock dipstick wants.
-michael
does your oil level sensor read properly? mine inconsistently reads the level as being too low since the pan went on. the light comes on more often than not, actually, and i can't see a pattern between how long the engine sits and whether or not it complains. i also bought a new sensor, same problem. this was part of the reason i thought maybe i should be setting the level as the stock dipstick wants.
-michael
Drifting
Joined: Jul 1999
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From: Brighton, MI
Re: Canton Pan is on! (No Go)
I don't why folks would not want to use the OEM dipstick. It works and sure beats crawling beneath the car to check oil...I could see me dropping it in the dirt or something...:)
