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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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Default Please Help with Strange Brake Problem

The facts:
'89 gets driven a few times a month. Last brake service was 3-4 years
ago.
Car was recently put into daily driver service without a single problem
for several months.

The problem:
After riding over rough highway for extended period, breaks became
spongy on first press, traveling roughly 50% to the floor. Second press
was firm and immediate.

Problem was suggested to be Master Cylinder, and was similar to problem
12 years ago.
Replaced Master Cylinder.
Bled Brakes until fluid was clean. (Old fluid was pretty black).

Problem resolved for 2 days, and has now returned:

Any ideas?

Thanks for the help in advance.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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Default Re: Please Help with Strange Brake Problem (Clay Assassin)

Is the fluid level up? There could be a leak somewhere in the system. You may also have a bad brake caliper.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 09:16 AM
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Default Re: Please Help with Strange Brake Problem (Clay Assassin)

Sounds like there is air in the system, that's why it builds. The rough/bumpy road might have something to do with it but. Either they didn't bleed all of the air out or you have a leak. Otherwise it wouldn't build like that.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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Default Re: Please Help with Strange Brake Problem (96CollectorSport)

Did you get a new or reman master cylinder. Also did you pre bleed the m/c before you installed it?? If not, you might have scored the rubbers and caused an internal leak. Get another m/c and try again. Chances are you might have gotten a defective one.. It happens..

Also check for leaks in the calipers and if your flex lines might be weak and ballooning when you apply the brakes.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Please Help with Strange Brake Problem (TimBVette)

The fluid level appears to stay the same.
The problem happened BEFORE installation of the new MC.
But did not inmprove after the installation.

I will try bleeding them again, and look for leaks.

Any others? This doesn't make sense.
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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unless the booster is crap...
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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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Make sure your calipers arent binding and that your caliper pins are lubed.

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Old Apr 15, 2004 | 04:31 PM
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Had a similar problem. Found out that there was air in the ABS unit. Had a dealership do another brake flush and that fixed the problem.
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Bogus;

Wouldn't a bad booster just make the pedal harder to push taking away the power assist?

I will look for air, you guys have convinced me there has to be air somewhere.....

Thanks for the help
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