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Old May 5, 2004 | 11:47 PM
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What are some ways to increase speed without adding more HP (like weigh reduction or better aerodynamics)
what about increasing torque?
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:12 AM
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Are you inerested in top speed or acceleration?
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Default Re: Increase speed without increasing HP? (ir0nmaiden420)

increasing torque usually brings with it more HP, though if you mean increasing torque at a certain low/mid rpm then you can lose some top end HP as a result

and HP is where the speed comes from in the 1/4mi

I dont understand your question
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:19 AM
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increasing acceleration
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:19 AM
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Default Re: Increase speed without increasing HP? (ir0nmaiden420)

increasing acceleration
Easy. Reduce weight.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:24 AM
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Default Re: Increase speed without increasing HP? (ir0nmaiden420)

increasing acceleration
weight, gears, higher stall TC for auto

almost anything else you do is going to move that power peak up in the band
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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Default Re: Increase speed without increasing HP? (ir0nmaiden420)

Ah then, I agree; reduce weight. For example leave the spare & jack home and stomp on it with 1/4 tank of fuel in the tank.

Also more gears will increase acceleration, to a point. Of course you still have to hook it up.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 04:01 AM
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Default Re: Increase speed without increasing HP? (ir0nmaiden420)

Since the formula for horsepower is HP=RPMxToque/5252, you cannot gain torque without increasing horsepower unless and equivalent loss in RPM happens that would compensate.

Also, vehicle weight has little to do with top speed but it has a tremendous effect on acceleration. 100 pounds equal about .1 sec in the quarter mile.

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increasing acceleration
reducing weight as said above. Good rubber, maybe even DR's(I run mine on the street)gears will help, but you'll reduce top end...there may be more,someone else will be along soon.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 10:51 AM
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Reduce weight.
I removed front sway bar, A/C and pulleys, and stock seats.
My Racing seat weigh 15 lbs ea.
Skinnies up front will result in a loss of about 30 lbs per tire/ wheel.
Go on a diet! (costs less).
Better rubber in rear helps on lighter (racing) wheels.
These, along with all the above suggestions should help!
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Lexan windows, carbon fiber body panels & shafts. :jester
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Old May 6, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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Lexan windows, carbon fiber body panels & shafts. :jester
I'm sure some people think it may be wierd, but you're right about that carbon fiber body parts. but $$$$$$$!!
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Old May 6, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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Driving down hill works for me :D
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Default Re: Increase speed without increasing HP? (ir0nmaiden420)

lowering the car's front end will help a little bit (lowers the drag coefficient)
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Default Re: Increase speed without increasing HP? (aeronautica86)

Could be wrong here, but if you want to increase top speed, I think you need to gain weight, not reduce it. Take you longer and further to get there though.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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Could be wrong here, but if you want to increase top speed, I think you need to gain weight, not reduce it. Take you longer and further to get there though.
I think we are talking 1/4 mile times and speed here if am not mistaken.
So making the 1/4 mile further would be a problem. :)
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Old May 6, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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Most things won't increase your speed, but will increase your E/T.. which is more important IMO. Start with a rear end ratio that maximizes your engine's power band.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Driving down hill works for me :D
Yeah, also try putting some stickers on your car. I see a lot of guys doing it, so it must work! Oh... "Type-R" is good for at least .2 in the 1/4. :D

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