1988 Vs. 1995
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1988 Vs. 1995
My buddy in his 1988 conv. vette raced a 1995 conv. vette.
The guy in the 88' said that he had the 95' buy a fender.
Is this possible or is he pulling my leg? He said it was from a stoplight and
they went up to 90mph before backing off.
The guy in the 88' said that he had the 95' buy a fender.
Is this possible or is he pulling my leg? He said it was from a stoplight and
they went up to 90mph before backing off.
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (Darth Vader)
Sure it is possible. There are SO many variables to take into account. Were they both stock? Were either one spinning tires or shifting properly? Who left first? So many variables. The only thing the two cars should do is save it for the track.
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (Darth Vader)
:iagree"
That's another reason to rely on time slips...whenever possible.
Political correctness: "of course that light was on a tree at the track".
Now, what mods did each car have? A bone stock '95 should take a bone stock '88. Of course it's hard to find a bone stock '95 and even harder for an '88. :lol:
[Modified by 65Z01, 5:01 PM 5/8/2004]
That's another reason to rely on time slips...whenever possible.
Political correctness: "of course that light was on a tree at the track".
Now, what mods did each car have? A bone stock '95 should take a bone stock '88. Of course it's hard to find a bone stock '95 and even harder for an '88. :lol:
[Modified by 65Z01, 5:01 PM 5/8/2004]
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (VAHROOM)
Sure it is possible. There are SO many variables to take into account. Were they both stock? Were either one spinning tires or shifting properly? Who left first? So many variables. The only thing the two cars should do is save it for the track.
Driver experience is huge....
As he said, too many variables. Take it to the track and time'm.
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From: Marietta Pa
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (bogus)
It mainly depends on the driver....a stock L98 can run upper 13's in the quarter, a stock LT1 can run mid 13's. With .3 seconds variable if both are driven perfectly, it's easy to loose with just one mess up or one bad driver.
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (Darth Vader)
My '88 had a chip, 1.6 r.r's and free flow exhaust NO headers, against a friends 94 roadster. He had 1.6 r.r's and hypertech programming. Beat him at the track 3 times. Every time he was getting closer but I still had him by .8 secs.
He had horrible reaction times(1.15 was his best) my best against him was .63. He sold it 2 weeks later and bought an 02 roadster. Now I don't play :jester
I know when I'm beat....so far.... :D
He had horrible reaction times(1.15 was his best) my best against him was .63. He sold it 2 weeks later and bought an 02 roadster. Now I don't play :jester
I know when I'm beat....so far.... :D
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (65Z01)
:iagree"
That's another reason to rely on time slips...whenever possible.
Political correctness: "of course that light was on a tree at the track".
Now, what mods did each car have? A bone stock '95 should take a bone stock '88. Of course it's hard to find a bone stock '95 and even harder for an '88. :lol:
[Modified by 65Z01, 5:01 PM 5/8/2004]
That's another reason to rely on time slips...whenever possible.
Political correctness: "of course that light was on a tree at the track".
Now, what mods did each car have? A bone stock '95 should take a bone stock '88. Of course it's hard to find a bone stock '95 and even harder for an '88. :lol:
[Modified by 65Z01, 5:01 PM 5/8/2004]
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (Darth Vader)
Is this possible or is he pulling my leg? He said it was from a stoplight and
they went up to 90mph before backing off.
they went up to 90mph before backing off.
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (Mr Mojo)
Yeah I am sure non of us ever exceed the limit.....we all bought vettes to make the do wheelies at the track.....um hum.....That is pretty cool tho..ever done that on the street?
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (Punto)
Yeah I am sure non of us ever exceed the limit.....
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (Darth Vader)
I think the l98s are grossly under-rated, underappreciated, and disrespected. I also have an l98 1988. The differences in 0-60 times from lt1s are actually very small. Car and Driver published data - '88 4+3, 0-60 was 5.6, '94 lt1 6 speed was 5.4. Remember l98s are low-end torque monsters. Plus l98s have normal ignitions, old SB architecture, cheap easy upgrades, and are reliable and easy to work on. I'll take my l98 with performance mods over the later engines any day of the week. Of course, mine's up to 430 hp anyway - but just the same, that was cheaper and easier to achieve than an lt1 would've been.
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (Mark L. Warner)
5.4 0 to 60!?? no no no. For a 95-95ish lt1 with 2.59 it's 5.2 0 to 60 and just 4.95 0 to 60 with the 3.07 gear ratio option. A 88 vs. 95 with 3.07 both autos...no comparison. And all my records show some of the l98's in the 6's 0 to 60.
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (wildman378)
Don't believe everything you read in a magazine.
I hate to do this, but I have to post this timeslip, this time slip shows my stock 95 LT1 six speed VS 65 Z01's pretty much stock L98 automatic.
If you look at the times, you will see that the LT1 was superior all the way. Jim can verify the status of my car, we've been racing together over 4 years.
(Sorry Jim, I was forced to post it)
Car#4477 is me in the LT1, 4842 is Jim in the '88 L98
[Modified by Mr Mojo, 8:34 PM 5/10/2004]
I hate to do this, but I have to post this timeslip, this time slip shows my stock 95 LT1 six speed VS 65 Z01's pretty much stock L98 automatic.
If you look at the times, you will see that the LT1 was superior all the way. Jim can verify the status of my car, we've been racing together over 4 years.
(Sorry Jim, I was forced to post it)
Car#4477 is me in the LT1, 4842 is Jim in the '88 L98
[Modified by Mr Mojo, 8:34 PM 5/10/2004]
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (Mark L. Warner)
Remember l98s are low-end torque monsters.
The TPI isn't all that bad for certain applications, just realize that the first thing everybody does when they start making real power is to remove the TPI plenum and runners. Is it really still considered a TPI then?
It's like saying, here my 2 bbl carb isn't all that bad, let me show you the power it can make when I bolt on this 4 bbl :confused: Nobody argues that the short block is capable of making power, it's the intake system that gets all the disrespect.
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From: Stafford, Virginia Kittah, Kittah, Kittah...
Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (Mr Mojo)
BTW, I really should lock this, but I'm waiting for an answer from 65 Z01, any type of street racing stories unfortunately are not allowed.
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (Mr Mojo)
'88 has 245hp/345tq - 3157 lbs
'95 has 300hp/340tq - 3317 lbs
Put a 200lb guy in the '95 and a 150lb guy in the '88 and you'll have a real contest at the drags. Might be as close as who cuts the best light.
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Re: 1988 Vs. 1995 (96LT1)
Put a 200lb guy in the '95 and a 150lb guy in the '88 and you'll have a real contest at the drags. Might be as close as who cuts the best light.