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Does this make sense? Fuel pump shut down via distibutor???

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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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Default Does this make sense? Fuel pump shut down via distibutor???

First I want to thank all of you for help so far trying to diagnose why I cannot get my new 383 running. I found a repaired a couple of the items, but it still will not drive.

Yesterday I decided to see if I was a tooth off on the distribuitor. I had my son tap the key to get it to drop in. As we were doing this, I noted that the fuel pump shut down and kicked out a low voltage error.????

To prove this, I pulled the distributor and jumpered all the connections so I could manually turn the rotor, and sure enough as I turn it, it shuts down the fuel pump.

Maybe this is all part of the ECM control, but since I am hunting a ghost here, I am questioning everything. Perhaps my distributor is gone???

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RAC
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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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Default Re: Does this make sense? Fuel pump shut down via distibutor??? (HoustonBob)

I believe the fuel pump only primes for 2 seconds and then waites for cranking. While cranking ECM looks for oil pressure before it energizes fuel pump. Have you tested the oil pressure switch ?
I could email you the diagnostic procedures if you tell me what ones you need.
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Old Jul 4, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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Default Re: Does this make sense? Fuel pump shut down via distibutor??? (AGENT 86)

I believe the fuel pump only primes for 2 seconds and then waites for cranking. While cranking ECM looks for oil pressure before it energizes fuel pump. Have you tested the oil pressure switch ?
I could email you the diagnostic procedures if you tell me what ones you need.
Close. The ECM energizes the fuel pump relay for two seconds (prox) when the ignition is turned on. When the ECM detects pulses from the distributor, as the engine is cranked, it once again activates the relay. When the oil pressure reaches about 4 pounds, the pressure switch closes and current is supplied through the switch in a circuit parallel to the fuel pump relay, to run the pump in case of relay failure. The ECM never "sees" oil pressure or the output from the oil pressure switch. In a healthy engine with a failed relay, extended cranking will build sufficient pressure to close the switch and allow the engine to start. Cranking will take longer with a hot engine as the hotter, thinner oil will take longer to come up to pressure.
To prove this, I pulled the distributor and jumpered all the connections so I could manually turn the rotor, and sure enough as I turn it, it shuts down the fuel pump.
I am not sure exactly what you are jumping, or why turning the distributor stopped the fuel pump, but at least you now know how it should work.

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Default Re: Does this make sense? Fuel pump shut down via distibutor??? (CFI-EFI)

I was actually setting the timing, lining up post 1 when I first noted the fuel pump went off.

To see if I was loosing my mind, I pulled the distributor out completely again and reconnected everything, via test leads. Jumpering is a bad choice of words. This way I could rotate the rotor and try to learn what was going on.

It sounds like it makes sense that it may shut down the fuel pump, since I was manually rotating the rotor and the motor was sitting still, (no oil pressure), ever got there.

Damn, I thought maybe I found something. I think I am loosing this battle slowly but surely. Its going to kill me to have to flat bed this thing somewhere!

RC

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