A/C for intercooling?
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A/C for intercooling?
I remember reading somewhere about a Ferrari tuner (Koenig maybe?) that used the A/C system to chill the fuel/intake manifold of a 360. I think they claimed it was worth 20+ HP (After parasitic losses from the compressor itself. Now, this isn't quite like cooling air from a blower, but has anyone thought about doing this?
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From: Speedo Indiana
Bald turbo freak (Rick) is already in the process of this...The idea is that you drivre around with the air on to chill the water in the water to air intercooler, then switch the A/C off before you run.. There is a company out there that offers kits to do this..can't remember the name off hand, but google should find it for you.
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I read a while ago that the Ford Lightening uses or was going to use this method. I posted about it here, in someone elses thread when I read it.
Anyway, they use the return line, which is always cold and "sweating" to run through or around the intercooler. This line can be anywhere from 35-50 degrees, so it makes sense to utilize this. It wouldnt be very expensive, just extending the lines and building a small a/c condensor-like unit to heat sink the intercooler.
Anyway, they use the return line, which is always cold and "sweating" to run through or around the intercooler. This line can be anywhere from 35-50 degrees, so it makes sense to utilize this. It wouldnt be very expensive, just extending the lines and building a small a/c condensor-like unit to heat sink the intercooler.
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I'm not even sure you would need to add an air-liquid intercooler. Sure, that would be the most effective method, but I don't think Koenig cooled the intake air, just the fuel... Creating a "coil in can" cooling system for the fuel line would be way easy....
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Pulled from google:
"An innovative new SuperCooler, patented by John Coletti, director of SVT Programs, uses the air conditioning system to chill a small storage tank of coolant as an auxiliary to the supercharger's regular intercooler. When the pedal is put to the metal, SuperCooler is activated and provides up to 50 transient horsepower for short bursts of 30 to 45 seconds; it can regenerate in about two minutes."
"An innovative new SuperCooler, patented by John Coletti, director of SVT Programs, uses the air conditioning system to chill a small storage tank of coolant as an auxiliary to the supercharger's regular intercooler. When the pedal is put to the metal, SuperCooler is activated and provides up to 50 transient horsepower for short bursts of 30 to 45 seconds; it can regenerate in about two minutes."
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I had an idea after looking at that cool pack those guys put on thier intakes inbetween round at the drags.
Would one gain anything from taking a super ram lid and putting a series of water passages in it in the shape of an oil cooler and running ice water through it?
I know after running my car the intake gets kinda hot.
I just dont know if this would be worth trying out, and how to do it exactly. I have been looking on the net at cooling sytems for various things. I see some guys are cooling thier computers with water. probably a bad idea here, but it is working for them.
They get a piece of aluminum and coat it so it wont get water damage. looks like CNC'd water channels in to it, and make a cover for it to seal it. it got me thinking about the super ram lid, and possible the bottom of the plenum. Just an idea.
Would one gain anything from taking a super ram lid and putting a series of water passages in it in the shape of an oil cooler and running ice water through it?
I know after running my car the intake gets kinda hot.
I just dont know if this would be worth trying out, and how to do it exactly. I have been looking on the net at cooling sytems for various things. I see some guys are cooling thier computers with water. probably a bad idea here, but it is working for them.
They get a piece of aluminum and coat it so it wont get water damage. looks like CNC'd water channels in to it, and make a cover for it to seal it. it got me thinking about the super ram lid, and possible the bottom of the plenum. Just an idea.
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Co2
Has anyone tried cooling off the throttle body and manifold manually between runs using something like C02. Do you think this would put too much stress on them with the expansion and contraction? I'd hate to crack something. Next time out I'll probably try some ice packs first.
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I have seen guys put ice on the intake between rounds.
I was mentioning an ice pack that is sold on the forum in my post above. I know some of the drag race guys in that section were using it between rounds. They are too expensive for what it is IMHO.
here are some links to it.
http://www.zip-products.com/Corvette...9E152644CA85C4
http://www.zip-products.com/Corvette...9E152644CA85C4
http://www.zip-products.com/Corvette...9E152644CA85C4
I was mentioning an ice pack that is sold on the forum in my post above. I know some of the drag race guys in that section were using it between rounds. They are too expensive for what it is IMHO.
here are some links to it.
http://www.zip-products.com/Corvette...9E152644CA85C4
http://www.zip-products.com/Corvette...9E152644CA85C4
http://www.zip-products.com/Corvette...9E152644CA85C4
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From: eville in
Originally Posted by ztrips
Pulled from google:
"An innovative new SuperCooler, patented by John Coletti, director of SVT Programs, uses the air conditioning system to chill a small storage tank of coolant as an auxiliary to the supercharger's regular intercooler. When the pedal is put to the metal, SuperCooler is activated and provides up to 50 transient horsepower for short bursts of 30 to 45 seconds; it can regenerate in about two minutes."
"An innovative new SuperCooler, patented by John Coletti, director of SVT Programs, uses the air conditioning system to chill a small storage tank of coolant as an auxiliary to the supercharger's regular intercooler. When the pedal is put to the metal, SuperCooler is activated and provides up to 50 transient horsepower for short bursts of 30 to 45 seconds; it can regenerate in about two minutes."
50 hp 
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From: Gushikawa Japan
I use CO2 spray bars on air to air intercoolers all the time. Paintball CO2 bottle with a nitrous solenoid, -4 TFE braided hose. Pretty easy to fab up and it's worth a lot of power, especially when you just leave the line and there is no ambient air flow through the intercooler yet.
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