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Really Dumb Tech Related Question...
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Really Dumb Tech Related Question...
Is a Helms manual a reprint of the original factory service manual? Or is it something better?
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As far as I know, Helms printed them for GM.
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Frank is correct... sad but true.
Those manuals are tragic, really.
They work as reference material for factory trained service techs. That's the problem with them, they are so vague, cause there is classroom time that goes with them that we don't get.
Those manuals are tragic, really.
They work as reference material for factory trained service techs. That's the problem with them, they are so vague, cause there is classroom time that goes with them that we don't get.
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Originally Posted by bogus
Frank is correct... sad but true.
Those manuals are tragic, really.
They work as reference material for factory trained service techs. That's the problem with them, they are so vague, cause there is classroom time that goes with them that we don't get.
Those manuals are tragic, really.
They work as reference material for factory trained service techs. That's the problem with them, they are so vague, cause there is classroom time that goes with them that we don't get.
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Thanks, everybody. I was worried that I'm missing something wonderful, but it turns out that I'm not, as I do have the service manual...just never heard it called the Helms manual until a couple of weeks ago.
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Originally Posted by JCD
Perhaps adding a Haynes manual to the collection would be a good thing, small investment for a different look at the same problems...
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Originally Posted by j3studio
as I do have the service manual...just never heard it called the Helms manual until a couple of weeks ago.
THE factory service manual is called "The Helms", because it is published by Helms for Chevrolet.
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
If you have "THE" service manual, you have the Helms. The "Chevrolet Factory Service" manual makes little reference as to who published it. To the casual eye, it appears to be a Chevrolet publication. On the inside front cover of mine, there is manual ordering information, that directs you to Helm Inc. For actual repair procedures, how to remove and reinstall a specific component, the independents may be good. However, they do cover multiple years. The beauty of the Helms, is in the the trouble shooting charts and the test procedures for individual components, minimizing the need to replace parts, needlessly. Also, there are explanations of how certain systems work and in some cases interact with others.
THE factory service manual is called "The Helms", because it is published by Helms for Chevrolet.
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THE factory service manual is called "The Helms", because it is published by Helms for Chevrolet.
RACE ON!!!
Couldn't have said it better myself!
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Originally Posted by JCD
...small investment for a different look at the same problems...
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The Helms GM manuals are very good compared to what is available for other cars. The electrical schematic section is particularly good. Compare the Helms manuals to those for Nissan, Toyota or Jaguar. The Haynes manuals often have a good section on rebuilding an engine but are skimpy for most of the other stuff.