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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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5.7 liters seems like alot...how is is that newer cars with alot less capacity than that put out more HP?
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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Better head, intake and cam designs. Technology basically!
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ir0nmaiden420
5.7 liters seems like alot...how is is that newer cars with alot less capacity than that put out more HP?
That is true, but it is torque that moves the car. Most 4 cyl engines and some 6 cyl are dohc 4 valve per cylinder configuration.vs the Chevy v8 push rod two valve per cyl. configuration. This results in a lot higher HP per cubic inch because of the increased volumetric effeciency. However, you just can't beat cubic inches when it comes to high torque and moving a heavy vehicle.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Is there a formula or something to figure out how much potential your engine has based on its capacity, so you can figure out a way to make the most of all 5.7 liters?
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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there are formula's for everything... but you have to take into consideration volumetric and thermal effiency... they are never at 100%.

oh, and turbo chargers are the great equalizer of cubic inches. Force feed that puppy!!!

Back in the mid-80s, when the turbo era reigned supreme in Formula 1, they were running 1.5 litre V6s with God-only-knows how much boost, and getting upwards of 1500hp!!!! I donno remember what the torque numbers were like, but they were serious.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 04:31 PM
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Today's cars are getting to be ultra efficient, heads, induction, cam profiles, exhaust, ignition, everything is nearly better engineered than it was 35 years ago. All this makes it possible to make more with less.

It wasn't that long ago that a 400hp motor was a lot in a race car, now there are quite a few full warranty'd cars in production with that kind of power.

Technology is amazing.

And as said, turbos and superchargers do help the smaller ci stuff quite a bit.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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because of better intake and head designs, and better fuel delivery/timing systems

there are no formulas that are on solid enough ground that I would believe them, mostly engineers' 'rules of thumb'
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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Well, you can get about 8000HP out of a 426cu in motor. I'd say about 7.0L.

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My last car which I just sold was a Porsche 944 turbo (stock 2.5 liter 4 cyl) - I was smoking C4 corvettes on a regular basis, even from a 70 or 80 mph rolling start I'd pull away strong. Come to find out my blow off valve and wastegate were screwed up and I was running tons of boost. That car had wicked torque.
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There are two ways to performance. Cubic inches or rectangular dollars. Then of course, there is the combination of both.

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Originally Posted by NeedSpeed
Well, you can get about 8000HP out of a 426cu in motor. I'd say about 7.0L.

Top Fuel dragsters are the fastest-accelerating vehicles in the world. The 25-foot landlocked missiles can cover the quarter-mile in 4.4 seconds at speeds in excess of 330 mph. The engine of choice for most teams is an aluminum version of the famed 426 Chrysler Hemi. These supercharged, fuel-injected, nitromethane-burning engines produce an estimated 8,000 horsepower.
That'd be a lot of fun on the street, but I'm just getting too old and tired to rebuild my engine after every few seconds of running....
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
There are two ways to performance. Cubic inches or rectangular dollars. Then of course, there is the combination of both.

RACE ON!!!
for sure.....
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