can these headers work with an lt1 ?
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Racer
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From: Jonesboro AR
can these headers work with an lt1 ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33631
i know its probaly a bad idea. but can these be put on a 92 ?
<---- looking for cheap way out
i know its probaly a bad idea. but can these be put on a 92 ?
<---- looking for cheap way out
Team Owner
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From: San Pedro CA
I don't think there are bolt differences... what might be off is port shape...
I don't see why they would not fit, as far as the car is concerned... but the bigger issue is engine compatibility.
I don't see why they would not fit, as far as the car is concerned... but the bigger issue is engine compatibility.
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St. Jude Donor '04-'05-'06-'07
They're the cheap Hedmans and can be had for about $120 from the big mail order speed shops. Hedman makes much better versions of these with heavier pipe, thicker flanges and even ceramic coating. They'll fit any C4 but these have no emissions hook-ups. They do make emissions versions but only for the L98s. There is also a slight mismatch with the D-port heads found on all LT1/4s and later L98s.
Melting Slicks
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I don't think its a good idea to buy cheap headers.
1st. Installing long tubes are a true pain in the *** already and if they are not designed properly you can spend countless hours fitting them. 2nd. Once you have them on you have to worry about the ports matching and sealing, you are better off with stock manifolds then to have a leaking header off the exhaust ports.
3rd. changing spark plugs with a poorly designed header is probably more frustrating than anything.
4th. cheap headers will not last as long as more expensive headers, therefore you have to replace them soon after.
If you think you can deal with these issues then go for it.
1st. Installing long tubes are a true pain in the *** already and if they are not designed properly you can spend countless hours fitting them. 2nd. Once you have them on you have to worry about the ports matching and sealing, you are better off with stock manifolds then to have a leaking header off the exhaust ports.
3rd. changing spark plugs with a poorly designed header is probably more frustrating than anything.
4th. cheap headers will not last as long as more expensive headers, therefore you have to replace them soon after.
If you think you can deal with these issues then go for it.
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St. Jude Donor '04-'05-'06-'07
Originally Posted by chriswtx
Look at the #2 and #6 exhaust tubes. Imagine trying to change those spark plugs... 
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Well, I can attest to using the cheap hedmans. YES, CHANGING PLUGS IS A PITA. I recommend removing the headers for plug changes, otherwise you'll be using a 5/8" wrench to remove the plugs because you can't fit a socket onto the plugs.
Would I go back and spend 4 to 5 times as much for better headers, no. Four times as much, come on. Yes the quality of these headers is poor but compared to the price of others, you can change them yearly and still come out ahead.
But if you do get the Hedmans cheapies, be prepared for difficult maintenance, they are not for the newbie to install or work with. Some custom brackets are in order also if you're not handy with a grinder and welder.
Would I go back and spend 4 to 5 times as much for better headers, no. Four times as much, come on. Yes the quality of these headers is poor but compared to the price of others, you can change them yearly and still come out ahead.
But if you do get the Hedmans cheapies, be prepared for difficult maintenance, they are not for the newbie to install or work with. Some custom brackets are in order also if you're not handy with a grinder and welder.
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Originally Posted by reed62783
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33631
i know its probaly a bad idea. but can these be put on a 92 ?
<---- looking for cheap way out
i know its probaly a bad idea. but can these be put on a 92 ?
<---- looking for cheap way out
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From: Indianapolis IN
Originally Posted by kman0066
Well, I can attest to using the cheap hedmans. YES, CHANGING PLUGS IS A PITA. I recommend removing the headers for plug changes, otherwise you'll be using a 5/8" wrench to remove the plugs because you can't fit a socket onto the plugs.
Would I go back and spend 4 to 5 times as much for better headers, no. Four times as much, come on. Yes the quality of these headers is poor but compared to the price of others, you can change them yearly and still come out ahead.
But if you do get the Hedmans cheapies, be prepared for difficult maintenance, they are not for the newbie to install or work with. Some custom brackets are in order also if you're not handy with a grinder and welder.
Would I go back and spend 4 to 5 times as much for better headers, no. Four times as much, come on. Yes the quality of these headers is poor but compared to the price of others, you can change them yearly and still come out ahead.
But if you do get the Hedmans cheapies, be prepared for difficult maintenance, they are not for the newbie to install or work with. Some custom brackets are in order also if you're not handy with a grinder and welder.
BTW, back in 1965, Headmans were the "cats a$!" on my dad's 65 Nightwatch Blue 65 GTO 4-speed with 3 dueces,
Melting Slicks
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I personally wouldn't buy used headers...
but as far as the "cheap" hedmen comments:
Why do you call them cheap? Many on this forum have them and like them. The elite series are, as one person said, excellent, and I'd put them at the top of the list of headers...
As far as "cheap" I would name Hooker as the cheapest, due to quality, fitment and primary size... but then again, this is just my opinion
but as far as the "cheap" hedmen comments:
Why do you call them cheap? Many on this forum have them and like them. The elite series are, as one person said, excellent, and I'd put them at the top of the list of headers...
As far as "cheap" I would name Hooker as the cheapest, due to quality, fitment and primary size... but then again, this is just my opinion
Last edited by mikey whipreck; Nov 22, 2004 at 10:58 AM.
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Originally Posted by mikey whipreck
As far as "cheap" I would name Hooker as the cheapest, due to quality, fitment and primary size... but then again, this is just my opinion
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St. Jude Donor '04-'05-'06-'07
Originally Posted by kman0066
Well, I can attest to using the cheap hedmans. YES, CHANGING PLUGS IS A PITA. I recommend removing the headers for plug changes, otherwise you'll be using a 5/8" wrench to remove the plugs because you can't fit a socket onto the plugs.
Would I go back and spend 4 to 5 times as much for better headers, no. Four times as much, come on. Yes the quality of these headers is poor but compared to the price of others, you can change them yearly and still come out ahead.
But if you do get the Hedmans cheapies, be prepared for difficult maintenance, they are not for the newbie to install or work with. Some custom brackets are in order also if you're not handy with a grinder and welder.
Would I go back and spend 4 to 5 times as much for better headers, no. Four times as much, come on. Yes the quality of these headers is poor but compared to the price of others, you can change them yearly and still come out ahead.
But if you do get the Hedmans cheapies, be prepared for difficult maintenance, they are not for the newbie to install or work with. Some custom brackets are in order also if you're not handy with a grinder and welder.
Drifting
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ok my 2 cents!
I put the same ones on my 1996 lt1
now yes they fit the engine!
BUT NOT THE CAR
now I had to do alot!!!! of custom fabbing. Im sure some people will disagree. but seriously its jsut trouble!!! a 7 hr job turns into a 30 hr puzzling job! the headers wont fit right on the pass side without removing the evaporator core shroud!
also oil dip stick wont fit right, it has nothing to hang onto..no bolt. the bolts are almost impossible to get on! and wont fully tighten!
its just one problem after another.
seriously buy better headers!
and make sure you get them ceramic coated!
email me if you need them coated! I am giving CF members special prices, just email me
Slimshaby@mindspring.com
thanks your friend/vendor
Sean Blanton
I put the same ones on my 1996 lt1
now yes they fit the engine!
BUT NOT THE CAR
now I had to do alot!!!! of custom fabbing. Im sure some people will disagree. but seriously its jsut trouble!!! a 7 hr job turns into a 30 hr puzzling job! the headers wont fit right on the pass side without removing the evaporator core shroud!
also oil dip stick wont fit right, it has nothing to hang onto..no bolt. the bolts are almost impossible to get on! and wont fully tighten!
its just one problem after another.
seriously buy better headers!
and make sure you get them ceramic coated!
email me if you need them coated! I am giving CF members special prices, just email me
Slimshaby@mindspring.com
thanks your friend/vendor
Sean Blanton
Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by Nathan Plemons
Except that they fit perfectly and have excellent quality. I've had several guys running TPIS headers look at my "cheap" Hooker headers and start whining about how much money they spent on such poor fitting junk.
Racer
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From: loughborough Leics ENGLAND
Yes they are hedmans.
Yes they are cheap
Yes they do require some work to get them to fit well
Yes i would buy them again
yes i would get them coated
If you are able to trial fit them and do a bit of fab work they are a good buy.
if not go for the dearer bolt on ones but i couldn't recommend where from.
i picked up 2 tenths on my 90.
The 1"5/8 pipe worked great on my combo
cheers Mark
Yes they are cheap
Yes they do require some work to get them to fit well
Yes i would buy them again
yes i would get them coated
If you are able to trial fit them and do a bit of fab work they are a good buy.
if not go for the dearer bolt on ones but i couldn't recommend where from.
i picked up 2 tenths on my 90.
The 1"5/8 pipe worked great on my combo
cheers Mark
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St. Jude Donor '04-'05-'06-'07
Originally Posted by redbullapril23
ok my 2 cents!
I put the same ones on my 1996 lt1
now yes they fit the engine!
BUT NOT THE CAR
now I had to do alot!!!! of custom fabbing. Im sure some people will disagree. but seriously its jsut trouble!!! a 7 hr job turns into a 30 hr puzzling job! the headers wont fit right on the pass side without removing the evaporator core shroud!
also oil dip stick wont fit right, it has nothing to hang onto..no bolt. the bolts are almost impossible to get on! and wont fully tighten!
its just one problem after another.
seriously buy better headers!
and make sure you get them ceramic coated!
email me if you need them coated! I am giving CF members special prices, just email me
Slimshaby@mindspring.com
thanks your friend/vendor
Sean Blanton
I put the same ones on my 1996 lt1
now yes they fit the engine!
BUT NOT THE CAR
now I had to do alot!!!! of custom fabbing. Im sure some people will disagree. but seriously its jsut trouble!!! a 7 hr job turns into a 30 hr puzzling job! the headers wont fit right on the pass side without removing the evaporator core shroud!
also oil dip stick wont fit right, it has nothing to hang onto..no bolt. the bolts are almost impossible to get on! and wont fully tighten!
its just one problem after another.
seriously buy better headers!
and make sure you get them ceramic coated!
email me if you need them coated! I am giving CF members special prices, just email me
Slimshaby@mindspring.com
thanks your friend/vendor
Sean Blanton
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Originally Posted by mikey whipreck
hmm... you must be one of the lucky one(s). -primary size is an argument for another thread
Just throw out the gaskets that come with them and use real ones.
Intermediate
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From: Crown Point IN
Do another search on ebay I saw a corsa exhaust system with headers. It is at $430 right now. Not sure if it is actually all corsa but prob worth checking out if its what you are looking for.
