Where to get things ceramic coated?
Drifting
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From: atlanta Georgia
you do not need to use header wrap!
The headers will not rust! unless you are pouring water and salt on them all the time and just never drive the car.
ceramic headers disipate heat so well its not funny!
let me know its only $188 per set... again jet hot charges 279 plus ship!
your friend
Sean
The headers will not rust! unless you are pouring water and salt on them all the time and just never drive the car.
ceramic headers disipate heat so well its not funny!
let me know its only $188 per set... again jet hot charges 279 plus ship!
your friend
Sean
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From: The Top of Utah
Originally Posted by redbullapril23
let me know its only $188 per set... again jet hot charges 279 plus ship!
your friend
Sean
your friend
Sean
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Heel & Toe
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Originally Posted by redbullapril23
you do not need to use header wrap!
The headers will not rust! unless you are pouring water and salt on them all the time and just never drive the car.
ceramic headers disipate heat so well its not funny!
let me know its only $188 per set... again jet hot charges 279 plus ship!
your friend
Sean
The headers will not rust! unless you are pouring water and salt on them all the time and just never drive the car.
ceramic headers disipate heat so well its not funny!
let me know its only $188 per set... again jet hot charges 279 plus ship!
your friend
Sean
i'm not looking to get them done (already done) it was just a question about them i've always had.
you want the headers to HOLD IN heat, not dissipate. and the wrap does it much much much better.
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From: The Top of Utah
Originally Posted by Saleen Grunt
you want the headers to HOLD IN heat, not dissipate. and the wrap does it much much much better.
Originally Posted by redbullapril23
ceramic headers disipate heat so well its not funny!
RACE ON!!!
Drifting
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From: atlanta Georgia
you dont need to send freight!
I as most alike most all coaters do not pay for shipping.
When I say it dissipates heat it does well if its coated on the inside and out, it acts as a super insulant!
Why would you use heat wrap?
you do not need it. It keeps heat inside of headers for the most part and it doent get hot enough outside to hurt any enigne parts..(spar plug wires included!) unless its touching.
thanks
Sean
I as most alike most all coaters do not pay for shipping.
When I say it dissipates heat it does well if its coated on the inside and out, it acts as a super insulant!
Why would you use heat wrap?
you do not need it. It keeps heat inside of headers for the most part and it doent get hot enough outside to hurt any enigne parts..(spar plug wires included!) unless its touching.
thanks
Sean
Drifting
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From: atlanta Georgia
the heat made from combustion is dissipated from the inner walls of the headers so yes it does. But I mean that makes it an insulator!
the ceramic coating is 1/100 of an inch thick so it dissipates the heat from reaching the metal(the conductor)!
thanks alot
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Sean
Are you a Metallurgist? ....ok then!
you seem to keep trying to spite me in all my poset for coatings...why sir?
I am honest and selling a great service, for a great price!
Dont knock it until you try it buddy!
thanks for your 10 cents
the ceramic coating is 1/100 of an inch thick so it dissipates the heat from reaching the metal(the conductor)!
thanks alot
your friend
Sean
Are you a Metallurgist? ....ok then!
you seem to keep trying to spite me in all my poset for coatings...why sir?
I am honest and selling a great service, for a great price!
Dont knock it until you try it buddy!
thanks for your 10 cents
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Drifting
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From: atlanta Georgia
also as stated above....
the wraps do not do a better job! the ceramic insulates/dissipates alot better. the wrap is cheap and flemsy!
If you take under hood temps of wrapping vs ceramic coating
ceramic will win every time!!!
why?
because its insulation starts from the inside! not the outside!
also ceramic coating will out last the wrapping and make the headers more durable! inside of having to buy new headers every 3 yrs because they go to crap get it ceramic coated! Its just common sense!
no lowering your under the hood temps has more than one benefits.
more hp due to cooler intake temps(you get air intake is under the hood), less corrosion of parts such as headers and spark plug wires,
and the cool look!
thanks guys email me with questions.
I also really don't appreciate people knocking down what I say. please stop. I mean I know you love to debate but do that with politics NOT MY INCOME!
thanks
your friend
Sean
the wraps do not do a better job! the ceramic insulates/dissipates alot better. the wrap is cheap and flemsy!
If you take under hood temps of wrapping vs ceramic coating
ceramic will win every time!!!
why?
because its insulation starts from the inside! not the outside!
also ceramic coating will out last the wrapping and make the headers more durable! inside of having to buy new headers every 3 yrs because they go to crap get it ceramic coated! Its just common sense!
no lowering your under the hood temps has more than one benefits.
more hp due to cooler intake temps(you get air intake is under the hood), less corrosion of parts such as headers and spark plug wires,
and the cool look!
thanks guys email me with questions.
I also really don't appreciate people knocking down what I say. please stop. I mean I know you love to debate but do that with politics NOT MY INCOME!
thanks
your friend
Sean
Drifting
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From: atlanta Georgia
you sir.
I believe I have posted about 10 posts in the c4 section advertising what I do for a living! and everytime you come in and start saying I dont know what I'm talking about and all this garbage and its completly wrong.
I mean what is insulating?
keeping heat in or from escaping a confined space...correct?
what is to dissipate?
to break up and drive off.....correct?
well when the combusted gases going though the headers it does just that! stops the heat from leaving the header walls and drives it towards the flow of air...out the back of the car...no?
I believe I have posted about 10 posts in the c4 section advertising what I do for a living! and everytime you come in and start saying I dont know what I'm talking about and all this garbage and its completly wrong.
I mean what is insulating?
keeping heat in or from escaping a confined space...correct?
what is to dissipate?
to break up and drive off.....correct?
well when the combusted gases going though the headers it does just that! stops the heat from leaving the header walls and drives it towards the flow of air...out the back of the car...no?
Team Owner
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From: Phila., PA burbs
Well I am not a metallurgist and apparently I'm not well versed on the properties of insulators vs dissapators, BUT I can tell you from experience that a ceramic coated header lasts a hell of a lot longer than one that is heat wrapped. Heat wrapped headers, at least in my experience, rust very quickly.
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From: The Top of Utah
Originally Posted by redbullapril23
Are you a Metallurgist? ....ok then! ?
?
Originally Posted by redbullapril23
I mean what is insulating?
keeping heat in or from escaping a confined space...correct?
what is to dissipate?
to break up and drive off.....correct?
well when the combusted gases going though the headers it does just that! stops the heat from leaving the header walls and drives it towards the flow of air...out the back of the car...no?
keeping heat in or from escaping a confined space...correct?
what is to dissipate?
to break up and drive off.....correct?
well when the combusted gases going though the headers it does just that! stops the heat from leaving the header walls and drives it towards the flow of air...out the back of the car...no?
The inside coating of ceramic INSULATES the metal of the headers from ever getting hot. If it were dissapating the heat, it would first have to absorb it. As an insulator, it doesn't. Someone must have told you what a ceramic coating can do, but you seem unable to explain how. Stay in school.
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Drifting
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From: atlanta Georgia
yes I will.
$188 includes inside and out coating and sand blasting to stip it before we coat it! Most places charge extra to do that!
And that is absurd that heat wrap does more than ceramic coating.
I urge you to do a test yourself,(since right now you are presuming)
I can tell you that non coated vs coated vs wrap the coating will win every time no questions asked! It keeps heat inside the header the wrap tries to keep heat inside but since it does not work from the inside out, it doesn't really do much.
also cermaic coatings keep more heat at a higher temps from escaping the headers!
using the wrap is good for keeping things like wires and fuel lines from getting hot but not on headers. using wrap on you headers is like using a long sleeve shirt in 10 degree weather! It does something but not much!
$188 includes inside and out coating and sand blasting to stip it before we coat it! Most places charge extra to do that!
And that is absurd that heat wrap does more than ceramic coating.
I urge you to do a test yourself,(since right now you are presuming)
I can tell you that non coated vs coated vs wrap the coating will win every time no questions asked! It keeps heat inside the header the wrap tries to keep heat inside but since it does not work from the inside out, it doesn't really do much.
also cermaic coatings keep more heat at a higher temps from escaping the headers!
using the wrap is good for keeping things like wires and fuel lines from getting hot but not on headers. using wrap on you headers is like using a long sleeve shirt in 10 degree weather! It does something but not much!
Melting Slicks
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that sounds like a good price.
what type of gurantee do you give?
also, jet-hot does offer a 20% discount to forum members. ($223). 3-years unlimited warranty, and lifetime warranty against rust for new headers.
what type of gurantee do you give?
also, jet-hot does offer a 20% discount to forum members. ($223). 3-years unlimited warranty, and lifetime warranty against rust for new headers.
Drifting
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From: atlanta Georgia
I'm pretty sure 279 was with the discount.
I told him I was a CF member and he was like ok its 279 plus return ship.
I can do a 3 year warranty and a lifetime limited warranty agianst rust for new headers too!
well even if they are 233 you are saving $45!!!!
What they are doing is jacking up the price then offering you a discount!
Thanks alot your friend
Sean Blanton
hope this helps your dicision!
I told him I was a CF member and he was like ok its 279 plus return ship.
I can do a 3 year warranty and a lifetime limited warranty agianst rust for new headers too!
well even if they are 233 you are saving $45!!!!
What they are doing is jacking up the price then offering you a discount!
Thanks alot your friend
Sean Blanton
hope this helps your dicision!