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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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Let`s see less flex, looks prettier, more expensive. That pretty much covers it, I think.
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well my lines are stock and original. And I have noticed longer braking periods. new rotors and pads and MC. So is that a yea or nay.

at 100 bucks not really wanting pretty.
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Originally Posted by Southern Comfort
well my lines are stock and original. And I have noticed longer braking periods. new rotors and pads and MC. So is that a yea or nay. at 100 bucks not really wanting pretty.
Advantages of SS are the lines are firmer and will not "ballon" or expand when pressure is applied. The results is a better feel (feedback) on the pedal. Will you notice the difference? This is likely if your driving (braking) style is very aggresive, or your original lines are limber. The later is not something you can see or check for. And you won't stop any sooner....

IMHO, I installed SS lines on my Corvette because I want the added insurance that the STOP pedal is best equipped to preform its mission. I also change the brake fluid once a year.

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Just make sure and get the ones with the clear plastic cover. A lot easier to keep clean.
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Does the SS ones have any problem with swelling closed like the stock rubber ones do?
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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I have a set on mine, but didnt try them out before I put on the C5 brakes.

I just got them because they will stay firm and should last a good long while.
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We have used use SS brake lines on our race motorcycles for years. They give bikes a lot more whoa.... I think if you did a lot of performace driving you would really tell a difference.

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If your stock lines are in good condition, then don't buy the SS lines. The only useful advantage they have is being more firm. And that attribute is pretty overrated.

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Originally Posted by nitronick
Just make sure and get the ones with the clear plastic cover. A lot easier to keep clean.
The purpose of this is to keep grit from getting into the SS braids and chewing up the teflon line. The teflon hose is very brittle and fragile, and what I've seen, is the factory hoses are way more reliable.
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The purpose of this is to keep grit from getting into the SS braids and chewing up the teflon line. The teflon hose is very brittle and fragile, and what I've seen, is the factory hoses are way more reliable.
And that leads me back to my other question regarding the rubber lines. I don't know so much about Corvettes, but I have had numerous GM vehicles (personal cars to school buses and everything in between) over the years where the inside of the rubber line had swelled shut. And one of two things happened.
1. No amount of pedal pressure would allow fluid through to activate the caliper or,
2. wouldn't allow the pressure to release, keeping the caliper constantly applied.
Both of these instances causes the vehicle to pull to one side. The first would be when applying braking, because you really only have one side actually working. The second would be a pull all the time. And the second one tends to make the caliper, rotor and wheel REALLY HOT! Even if driven only a short distance! It will literally boil water.
So, after all this, my question. Would the steel braided, teflon lines have this problem?
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Braided lines are more reliable (if clean)... the rubber lines are not just rubber though... and they WILL last many years before failure. But any rubber that is 12 years old is subject to failures...

Sometimes you're lucky, sometimes you're not... for a measily hundred bucks or so put new lines in for safety's sake.
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I have braided lines on both my 92 and 87 autocross car. There was a difference in pedal feel after I had installed them, but as mentioned, this was after replacing the original lines.

I paid less for the Earl's braided lines at Summit Racing than the cost of AC Delco rubber hoses.
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i plan on going with ss lines. being my car is 20 yrs old and want to clean up the wheel well for show purposes.gonna kill 2 birds with one expensive stone .
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Originally Posted by nitronick
Would the steel braided, teflon lines have this problem?
Good point. The teflon lining retains its shape better, won't swell open or shut like a worn out stock line. Long term, i don't know. The SS lines are stiffer and more likely to break off at the crimp fittings though. This is why they initially had such a hard time getting em DOT approved. you almost need longer break lines to ease the force on these fittings, but then you run the risk of the lines rubbing on the tire or suspension at full lock, and they don't test fit each make and model.

Also, keep in mind here, that these guys are usually comparing 15-20 yr old rubber lines with new SS lines.
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
The SS lines are stiffer and more likely to break off at the crimp fittings though. This is why they initially had such a hard time getting em DOT approved.
Not heard of this problem before this. The aircraft industry has used these for the last 50 years in more critical applications. Thats why I buy from Earls Supply. They do business selling AN hardware using aircraft quality standards.
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Originally Posted by nitronick
Just make sure and get the ones with the clear plastic cover. A lot easier to keep clean.
So which brands of SS lines have the clear plastic cover?
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