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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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Saw this list on another forum:

http://wheeltalk.fancal.net/wp-conte...ine_weight.txt

Our LT5 is quite the porker!
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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LT5 = L98 weight?

Im not sure I trust that list.
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I seem to recall reading in Corvette from the Inside that the weights were quite close. That list puts the source as Popular Hot Rodding, October 1988
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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Where did the extra weight in the ZR1 come from?
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Didn't the ZR1 have a 52/48 weight bias also?
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Where did the extra weight in the ZR1 come from?
Do you mean why isn't the LT5 lighter than the L98? If so, I'd guess the fact that the heads are a lot heavier is part. And the LT5 has larger fluid capacities, both coolant and oil (more than double as much oil). I don't know if that's considered as part of the "fully dressed" weight or not? I also would wonder how much of the exhaust is included. If it's just the manifolds, I'd think the Z probably has much heavier manifolds than the L98 because the Z had the cats integrated with the manifolds. The L98 does not. I'm just speculating though.

Here's another list, much shorter but seems to have some engines that are not on that long text list:


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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
LT5 = L98 weight?

Im not sure I trust that list.
If you believe : (122) Popular Hot Rodding, October 1988 !
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If you believe : (122) Popular Hot Rodding, October 1988 !
Im not sure I do. That was probably a year and some months away from the final production version of the LT5.
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun
LT5 = L98 weight?

Im not sure I trust that list.
Cam * 4
Valves * 2
Valve Springs * 2

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Originally Posted by kalister1
Cam * 2
* another 2
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Originally Posted by Aurora40
* another 2

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But Lt1 weighing 620 lb !!!
is The Zr1 600 lb Dry??
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Too many "Apples vs. Oranges" on that list.

Since when does an L98 weigh the same as an LT5, no way.

I've read somewhere that the ZR1 had a 150lb. weight penalty compared to the regular C4. I don't know if that was the whole car, or just the engine weight.
I think the LT5 weighs at least a 100lbs. more than an L98.
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Originally Posted by Greybeard ZR1
Too many "Apples vs. Oranges" on that list.
Since when does an L98 weigh the same as an LT5, no way.
I've read somewhere that the ZR1 had a 150lb. weight penalty compared to the regular C4. I don't know if that was the whole car, or just the engine weight.
I think the LT5 weighs at least a 100lbs. more than an L98.
My '93 ZR1 weighs just a little over 3520 lbs depending on how much gas etc is in it vs the published weight for a '93 C4 coupe at 3333 lbs...or just about only 187 more lbs. for my ZR1.

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Originally Posted by Greybeard ZR1
Too many "Apples vs. Oranges" on that list.

Since when does an L98 weigh the same as an LT5, no way.

I've read somewhere that the ZR1 had a 150lb. weight penalty compared to the regular C4. I don't know if that was the whole car, or just the engine weight.
I think the LT5 weighs at least a 100lbs. more than an L98.
Do not forget that Lt5 use flywheel which is 60 lb heaver than Flexplate(for Auto trans.) engine!
You can see and compare that in LT1 from the Table by Aurora40
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Originally Posted by Greybeard ZR1
Too many "Apples vs. Oranges" on that list.

Since when does an L98 weigh the same as an LT5, no way.

I've read somewhere that the ZR1 had a 150lb. weight penalty compared to the regular C4. I don't know if that was the whole car, or just the engine weight.
I think the LT5 weighs at least a 100lbs. more than an L98.
I'd have a hard time believing the LT5 was 100 lbs heavier than the iron block L98.

The whole car is probably about 150 lbs heavier. However, one thing to keep in mind is that those weights are always for base cars. The base curb weight is used by the EPA for fuel economy testing, so you can bet they aren't optioning up an L98 to get the base weight.

So the ZR-1 has as standard equipment, larger brakes, leather sport seats, Bose stereo, LTPWS, and selective ride control. Plus the Z51 package includes a power steering cooler. And the base L98 has an automatic as the standard transmission (which I'd bet is probably lighter overall). I think these things absolutely add weight to the car. In addition, the ZR-1 had wider rear tires and wheels, an oil cooler, and more oil and coolant than an L98.

So in my opinion most of the weight difference is probably attributable to these differences as opposed to the weight of the all-aluminum engine.
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FYI, base curb weights for 1990 MY:

Automatic coupe: 3284 lbs
6-speed coupe: 3330 lbs

from data at corvetteactioncenter.com.

They don't list the curb weight of the ZR-1 for 1990, though I believe it was around 3,450 lbs. That would make it about 165 lbs heavier than a base automatic, or 120 lbs heavier than a base 6-speed.
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Originally Posted by Aurora40
I'd have a hard time believing the LT5 was 100 lbs heavier than the iron block L98.

The whole car is probably about 150 lbs heavier. However, one thing to keep in mind is that those weights are always for base cars. The base curb weight is used by the EPA for fuel economy testing, so you can bet they aren't optioning up an L98 to get the base weight.

So the ZR-1 has as standard equipment, larger brakes, leather sport seats, Bose stereo, LTPWS, and selective ride control. Plus the Z51 package includes a power steering cooler. And the base L98 has an automatic as the standard transmission (which I'd bet is probably lighter overall). I think these things absolutely add weight to the car. In addition, the ZR-1 had wider rear tires and wheels, an oil cooler, and more oil and coolant than an L98.

So in my opinion most of the weight difference is probably attributable to these differences as opposed to the weight of the all-aluminum engine.



My fully optioned 94 6 speed LT-1 car weighed in at close to 3450lbs.

My lightened up 91 Z weighs 3350lbs on the same scale.
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I dont agree with the chart on some engines. Especially the LT1 and L98.
My 1970 LT1 is 501 LB. Thats a dry engine without exhaust or flywheel as it should be measured.
I plan to measure my LT5 engine in a few months, so I will know for sure.
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Originally Posted by ZR1 MK
I dont agree with the chart on some engines. Especially the LT1 and L98.
My 1970 LT1 is 501 LB. Thats a dry engine without exhaust or flywheel as it should be measured.
I plan to measure my LT5 engine in a few months, so I will know for sure.
So the Ls7 exhaust + flywheel = 32 LB ONLY??
Ls7 = 490 lb
Ls7 dry = 458 lb

Did i miss something here?!

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