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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MARK's_C5TT
One important point. LPE does the R&D, they sell the package and also Install it. Unless you are a true DIY guy, you dont want finger pointing with this kind of package.
Sounds sensible. TTs can be your biggest joy or biggest nightmare mod route. Turbos already have unrivaled refinement vs. performance tradeoff vs. other mod routes, so one can afford to put priority on reputation/quality AND still be heads and shoulders above most other mod routes in terms of performance vs. streetability.

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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by korvetkeith
DJ made a lot more than that through an automatic on a 346.
Dude you might have convinced me if I had just joined this board..but I remember hearing about DJSelf's dyno testing and trust me it wasn't A LOT more..what maybe 100 more rwhp. I don't ever remember seeing a graph for that either..but I am willing to accept it because it is certainly possible.

I don't think DJSelf made A LOT more...and my run the dyno graph is associated with was done with 3 broken spark plug wires and a small misfire...trust me there were 100s of people there to witness. Not to mention the dyno is one of the more conservative dyno's on this board. There was another car there that had 1 broken spark wire, fixed it, then made over 800rwhp..it was only 710rwhp with the broken plug wire...there were 100s of people there that saw those runs too.

Also I will show people what A LOT more looks like here shortly with a 346cid when I do some more testing...for fun of course. Getting a 1000rwhp on a TT 427 should be childs play, pushing enough to get it on a 346cid...is a little more challenging.

Don't want to stray away to much more on this thread.
As I indicated in my first thread...I think both kits are great kits and about evenly priced when you compare everything apples to apples.

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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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Whats 100rwhp here or there right? Its all the same, roflmao. Calm down, no disrepect to you or your car, but there is always someone faster.
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by korvetkeith
Whats 100rwhp here or there right? Its all the same, roflmao. Calm down, no disrepect to you or your car, but there is always someone faster.
Dynos don't mean a darn thing when it comes to a faster car. Good luck putting down any HP @ 15 PSI unless your back halfed.

Been there done that @ 15 PSI no traction with the IRS.

I was at the track once and won't be back again as I don't want to break anything. We had to turn it down from 15 to 12.8 PSI on 26" slicks to even get a decent run.

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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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I would personally go with the LPE route. They have a stellar reputation.
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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I like both... but if I chose LPE...knowing me I would get used to the power and start tinkering effectively eliminating the warranty. If it were me I would buy the TTiX kit and do the install myself along with a forged bottom end, start out slow, and work my way up on getting used to the power and boost settings based on my driving habits. BTW, I have driven an LPE 427 TT with a boost controller set on high and race gas. I have yet to drive another car that has been so scary fast... especially from a roll

Best of luck on whatever path you choose

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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Reid
I like both... but if I chose LPE...knowing me I would get used to the power and start tinkering effectively eliminating the warranty. If it were me I would buy the TTiX kit and do the install myself along with a forged bottom end, start out slow, and work my way up on getting used to the power and boost settings based on my driving habits. BTW, I have driven an LPE 427 TT with a boost controller set on high and race gas. I have yet to drive another car that has been so scary fast... especially from a roll

Best of luck on whatever path you choose

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how did it copare to steve's car (slamar)
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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All of you have been awesome regarding your suggestions.
I made my decision to go with Twins based on research and
data collected from the forum. I am much more informed.
It is incredible as to how much knowledge resides on this
site. Thanks again. I think that I am to the point where I will
have a few beers, flip a coin, and make a decision. Thanks again!!
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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GrnLite - both the LPE and TTi (Stage X) are capable of delivering far more power than you could ever begin to put to the wheels.

Ultimately, the decision comes down to your location (meaning proximity to a TTi installer or LPE installer) and size of your wallet.

Good Luck,

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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GrnLite
Hello all....I am new to the forum and I need help with a crucial
situation. I have a '00 6spd and I am looking to add
Twins. I have narrowed my choices to TTix and LPE 550 package.
Prices are fairly similar when it is all said and done. I like the
"pedigree" of LPE. However, I like the power potential of the
TTix. I would like hear pros and cons as well as suggestions.

GrnLite


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That is a tough call. I see advantages both ways. Good luck with your decision, either way you have a very fast car.
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Reid
I like both... but if I chose LPE...knowing me I would get used to the power and start tinkering effectively eliminating the warranty. If it were me I would buy the TTiX kit and do the install myself along with a forged bottom end, start out slow, and work my way up on getting used to the power and boost settings based on my driving habits. BTW, I have driven an LPE 427 TT with a boost controller set on high and race gas. I have yet to drive another car that has been so scary fast... especially from a roll

Best of luck on whatever path you choose

Bill

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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 99 C-5 F1C VETTE
how did it copare to steve's car (slamar)
I never personally drove Steve's car... I left Xtreme right when the project was finishing up. I have been a passanger in it after it was finished though . The F1R was a bit more predictable from a passangers perspective but not by much...with the LPE427TT pushing somewhere around 14psi (717/841)... and Steve's ride pushing 800rwhp if you stomped on either car they would both go up in smoke at speed. When I drove the LPE car as long as I eased into it the 345 DR's would hook quite nicely and a 75 to 150mph jaunt would be over in a flash. Another car that is scary fast is Dr Bob's all black 04 Coupe up in Vegas as well... 382/D1SC - 612rwhp through an A4... there is just something about having all that power and never having to lift through all the gears... as long as you can keep it straight

Mike, I'm quite certain I'd need to bring extra underwear if I was to come visit you crazy bastiches up there
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
The only thing that bugs me more than dyno racing is vendor nut hugging.
Yea, that gets my goat too. It gets really tacky sometimes. And I'm sure the vendors feel pressured when this happens. Besides, all the vendors on this forum make mistakes. Hang around long enough and you will see that even the best tuners have disappointed customers.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MARK's_C5TT
Yea, that gets my goat too. It gets really tacky sometimes. And I'm sure the vendors feel pressured when this happens. Besides, all the vendors on this forum make mistakes. Hang around long enough and you will see that even the best tuners have disappointed customers.
That is sooooo TRUE I guess when things don't go as right is when you really see what the vendor is made of. That being said so far FLP has been very fair..............................just sucks not having my car, but I will take that over half A$$ any day of the week. Good luck with your choice
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 06:10 PM
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" The only thing that bugs me more than dyno racing is vendor nut hugging"

Cheers,

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Aren't you the king TTix ambassador? Talk about vendor nut hugging.
Before TTix it was ECS, APE, etc. People are happy to praise their tuners. What will be next?
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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Aren't you the king TTix ambassador? Talk about vendor nut hugging. Before TTix it was ECS, APE, etc. People are happy to praise their tuners. What will be next?
lol. There is a huge difference between speaking well of a product or tuner that you are happy with and nut hugging.

I still speak well of ECS as I think they have a good product and very good support.

As for APE - I tried to give them every benefit of every possible doubt. I spoke well of them when things were well and when our relationship was dissolved I advised as such.

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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
As for APE - I tried to give them every benefit of every possible doubt. I spoke well of them when things were well and when our relationship was dissolved I advised as such.

Mark
This is the reason why Nowadays I am quiet about vendors. I've learned to refrain from ranting about anyone until they consistently perform great customer service. And there arent many of those. Only then will I step up to the plate. With the 5 years I have been on this CF, I have seen Forum members post accolades about CF Vendors/Tuners even though I know that these tuners/vendors have plenty of disatisfied customers. Its almost like some of these CF members expect something in return. I dont play that. Its just not fair to other Corvette owners and I certainly would not want someone to refer me to a vendor simply because he is going to get a discount off products in the future for sending business.

If a vendor is consistently good I will say so. And if a vendor had given me bad service I will first talk to the vendor or even send a letter to the GM. If I'm still not satisified I will convey my thoughts at some point on the CF not because I want to get even but becasue I want to warn other CF owners just like I would want them to warn me.

The other thing I noticed is that some CF members who are disatsified with their tuner are a bit intimidated because of the Tuner's reputation.
In the long run you wll lose in this situation. Contact the vendor/tuner. If you are still disatisfied, then be bold and speak up. But be fair.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
lol. There is a huge difference between speaking well of a product or tuner that you are happy with and nut hugging.

I still speak well of ECS as I think they have a good product and very good support.

As for APE - I tried to give them every benefit of every possible doubt. I spoke well of them when things were well and when our relationship was dissolved I advised as such.

Mark
You forgot to add

"I nut hug TTi"
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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DJ's TT was always a 346....

It didnt become a built 346 until last year (around the South Carolina Tuner Shootout)...And that Package, he ran 9.9 @149 mph... with a 1.9 60ft... At that time he was making around 750rwhp... When all was said and done the car made 847rwhp...

I have most of the vids of his runs when it was a 550 package.. The best it 10.3 @ 136.. and that was with the boost controller.. The best he went without the boost controller was 10.6 @ 132....

I know that his RWHP with the 550 package was something like 623..

And yes when he turned the controller on High boost, he did have a mixture of 104 octane in the tank.. To be safe..

Set'n the facts straight..

Anymore questions...

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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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Oh.. and all the 10.3-10.6 passes were on BFG Drag Radials..

The 9.9 pass was on ET Streets..

Drove to the track and Drove home...

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