upgrade TE 44
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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '08
upgrade TE 44
well i unbolted the compressor housings to have them polished. while doing so i accidently dinged the tip of the turbine. just had operation on rotator cuff so workin' w/one arm 
anyway sent turbos to Jose @ forcedinduction to assure that turbine is ok and balanced. so i was throwing the idea around if i should upgrade them. i am not thinking of replacing them completely just playing w/housings or turbines.
tell me what u think.
anyway sent turbos to Jose @ forcedinduction to assure that turbine is ok and balanced. so i was throwing the idea around if i should upgrade them. i am not thinking of replacing them completely just playing w/housings or turbines.
tell me what u think.
Drifting
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I stuck with the TE-44s.
Mainly because the ball bearing turbos only spool 300 rpms faster.
This may be alot for a all out drag car but I just have fun in mine.
Plus the install gets more complicated when you move to a BB turbo.
I like to keep things as simple as possible.
Just my opinion
Mainly because the ball bearing turbos only spool 300 rpms faster.
This may be alot for a all out drag car but I just have fun in mine.
Plus the install gets more complicated when you move to a BB turbo.
I like to keep things as simple as possible.
Just my opinion
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St. Jude Donor '08
Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
I stuck with the TE-44s.
Mainly because the ball bearing turbos only spool 300 rpms faster.
This may be alot for a all out drag car but I just have fun in mine.
Plus the install gets more complicated when you move to a BB turbo.
I like to keep things as simple as possible.
Just my opinion
Mainly because the ball bearing turbos only spool 300 rpms faster.
This may be alot for a all out drag car but I just have fun in mine.
Plus the install gets more complicated when you move to a BB turbo.
I like to keep things as simple as possible.
Just my opinion
good choice on the te44. jose could upgrade my te44 to bb easliy but like u said it worth approx 200 to 300 rpm...like ill notice.
i know there are some new turbines that jose is working on but not sure that they will work.
my a/r on the hot side is .58 dont think that i wanna go any larger. on the compressor side we could play w/trim or even machine out compressor housing and go w/slightly larger wheels.
i think in the end though that these te44 are an excellent choice right outa the box.
Safety Car
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Well... you should think about what's in store for the future, cubewise. You're motors fairly new so I don't know how long you're planning to keep it as it is. Knowing you, you're probably just looking for an excuse to get another one. 
The more significant thing is how you like how it spools now. It sounds like you want it to spool sooner... I know that while it's at Jose's the temptation to upgrade is hard but Jose would know best... just keep the goalsje
I think there's quite a bit more in her w/ timing/afr/alky..
BTW, I'm gonna try to get on a dyno this weekend so you can see what it does on a 408.
Arnel
The more significant thing is how you like how it spools now. It sounds like you want it to spool sooner... I know that while it's at Jose's the temptation to upgrade is hard but Jose would know best... just keep the goalsje
I think there's quite a bit more in her w/ timing/afr/alky..
BTW, I'm gonna try to get on a dyno this weekend so you can see what it does on a 408.
Arnel
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St. Jude Donor '08
Originally Posted by AVB
Well... you should think about what's in store for the future, cubewise. You're motors fairly new so I don't know how long you're planning to keep it as it is. Knowing you, you're probably just looking for an excuse to get another one.
The more significant thing is how you like how it spools now. It sounds like you want it to spool sooner... I know that while it's at Jose's the temptation to upgrade is hard but Jose would know best... just keep the goalsje
I think there's quite a bit more in her w/ timing/afr/alky..
BTW, I'm gonna try to get on a dyno this weekend so you can see what it does on a 408.
Arnel
The more significant thing is how you like how it spools now. It sounds like you want it to spool sooner... I know that while it's at Jose's the temptation to upgrade is hard but Jose would know best... just keep the goalsje
I think there's quite a bit more in her w/ timing/afr/alky..
BTW, I'm gonna try to get on a dyno this weekend so you can see what it does on a 408.
Arnel
arnel u'r so right!
i love the spool time as is but at the track i'd like more boost off the line but i got that covered now!! ait trick works awesome. 8.2psi in 1.5 car lenghts!
yeah u know when u pull stuff u look for excuses to mod!! so true!!!
ill have jose at least balance them.
at 18psi i am pretty maxed out on fuel, unless i can add 10% alchy and then pull some fuel from VE table. you see at the track alchy wasnt workin so thats definately something that can be played with! timing.....18*that day.
i'd like to push 20 22 psi!
bigger cubes is nice but i am definitely maxed out w/irs setup!
i CANNOT wait to hear ur #'s
what have u seen in psi???
Safety Car
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From: Hayward California
Originally Posted by NICK YOSKIN
arnel u'r so right!
i love the spool time as is but at the track i'd like more boost off the line but i got that covered now!! ait trick works awesome. 8.2psi in 1.5 car lenghts!
yeah u know when u pull stuff u look for excuses to mod!! so true!!!
ill have jose at least balance them.
at 18psi i am pretty maxed out on fuel, unless i can add 10% alchy and then pull some fuel from VE table. you see at the track alchy wasnt workin so thats definately something that can be played with! timing.....18*that day.
i'd like to push 20 22 psi!
bigger cubes is nice but i am definitely maxed out w/irs setup!
i CANNOT wait to hear ur #'s
what have u seen in psi???
i love the spool time as is but at the track i'd like more boost off the line but i got that covered now!! ait trick works awesome. 8.2psi in 1.5 car lenghts!
yeah u know when u pull stuff u look for excuses to mod!! so true!!!
ill have jose at least balance them.
at 18psi i am pretty maxed out on fuel, unless i can add 10% alchy and then pull some fuel from VE table. you see at the track alchy wasnt workin so thats definately something that can be played with! timing.....18*that day.
i'd like to push 20 22 psi!
bigger cubes is nice but i am definitely maxed out w/irs setup!
i CANNOT wait to hear ur #'s
what have u seen in psi???
Arnel
Last edited by AVB; Jan 31, 2006 at 04:10 PM.
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St. Jude Donor '08
Originally Posted by AVB
Makin my way slowly up the boosted areas of VE. I've only seen 7psi.... Part-throttle stuff for the most part, due to weather. I'll see what she does at 12psi. Yup, kinda curious what the curve will look like.
Arnel
Arnel
ARE YOU using a boost enrichment mult. to add fuel when in boost or just going straight with ve table in the higher kpa????
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St. Jude Donor '08
Originally Posted by AVB
I'm @ 3bar and yes EFI's got a boosted VE and timing map..
oh i know they do just wondering how you skin that cat!!
hp got KILLER resolution for 3 bar...i gotta figure out how to do screen shot!
Drifting
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Since you are dealing with Jose, he would be the man to ask about potential upgrades. They have probably done more work with their turbos than anyone you could possibly ask on this board. FYI you and your results are really pushing me towards the PTK kit.
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St. Jude Donor '08
Originally Posted by flynbludream
Since you are dealing with Jose, he would be the man to ask about potential upgrades. They have probably done more work with their turbos than anyone you could possibly ask on this board. FYI you and your results are really pushing me towards the PTK kit.
that cool...ptk!!
oh believe me i know jose is the man w/turbos. i was throwin' this out there for connversation!
i think that when people see that the stinger hood is available again will more will lean towards the ptk. my $.02
Racer
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Originally Posted by AVB
BTW, I'm gonna try to get on a dyno this weekend so you can see what it does on a 408.
Arnel
Arnel
Moved up to 3 bar also.
Dan
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St. Jude Donor '08
Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
What does 3 bar mean?
3 atmosheric pressure(sorry for spelling)
basically the software will compensate for additional fuel upto 3 bar(28.X psi)!!!!
HPTUNERS SPEED DENSITY RULES!!!!
Drifting
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From: Colorado Springs CO
Originally Posted by NICK YOSKIN
3 atmosheric pressure(sorry for spelling)
basically the software will compensate for additional fuel upto 3 bar(28.X psi)!!!!
HPTUNERS SPEED DENSITY RULES!!!!
basically the software will compensate for additional fuel upto 3 bar(28.X psi)!!!!
HPTUNERS SPEED DENSITY RULES!!!!
Doesnt 1 Bar equal 14.5PSI?
1 Bar Equals Atmosphere 14.69psi?
3 Bar equal 43.5PSI????
Drifting
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Originally Posted by NICK YOSKIN
well i unbolted the compressor housings to have them polished. while doing so i accidently dinged the tip of the turbine. just had operation on rotator cuff so workin' w/one arm
anyway sent turbos to Jose @ forcedinduction to assure that turbine is ok and balanced. so i was throwing the idea around if i should upgrade them. i am not thinking of replacing them completely just playing w/housings or turbines.
tell me what u think.
anyway sent turbos to Jose @ forcedinduction to assure that turbine is ok and balanced. so i was throwing the idea around if i should upgrade them. i am not thinking of replacing them completely just playing w/housings or turbines.
tell me what u think.
Can he upgrade my T3/T4 Hybrids in my TTIX????
If so, what could he do to them?
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Originally Posted by Yano
Doesnt 1 Bar equal 14.5PSI?
1 Bar Equals Atmosphere 14.69psi?
3 Bar equal 43.5PSI????
1 Bar Equals Atmosphere 14.69psi?
3 Bar equal 43.5PSI????
1 Bar MAP sensors are used on NA(naturally asperated) vehicles. 14psi of Vacuum to atmosphere.
2 Bar MAP Sensors are used on forced induction vehicles(Turbo & Supercharged). They can measure up to 2x the apmospheric pressure(29.4psi), so that means it can measure up to 14.7psi boost(the atmosphere is 14.7psi + 14.7psi from the turbo/supercharger).
3 Bar MAP sensors can measure up to 44.1psi, which translates to 29.7psi boost from a Turbo/supercharger.
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St. Jude Donor '08
Originally Posted by Yano
Doesnt 1 Bar equal 14.5PSI?
1 Bar Equals Atmosphere 14.69psi?
3 Bar equal 43.5PSI????
1 Bar Equals Atmosphere 14.69psi?
3 Bar equal 43.5PSI????
1 bar is absolute
so thats zero..so 2nd bar is then 14.7
then 3rd bar is then 28.X
got it?