What if the Viper had a 125 shot of Nitrous? In reality who cares about Vipers? everyone i know who has driven one say they drive like trucks, have TONS of torque, and are only good for a straight line
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A dyno tuned STS car @ 7-8 lbs boost will run 10.5's @ 135 or so.
Not many street cars will match it. Fully installed price will run 10K.
And ... company ships in 4 days ... and gives top aftersales support.
IMO .... order kit w/o the Predator and save some bucks to put toward a dyno tune.
Surprized they even need to advertize ... word of mouth will keep them busy enough.
Not many street cars will match it. Fully installed price will run 10K.
And ... company ships in 4 days ... and gives top aftersales support.
IMO .... order kit w/o the Predator and save some bucks to put toward a dyno tune.
Surprized they even need to advertize ... word of mouth will keep them busy enough.
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From: Tx
Originally Posted by bernrex
A dyno tuned STS car @ 7-8 lbs boost will run 10.5's @ 135 or so.
Not many street cars will match it. Fully installed price will run 10K.
And ... company ships in 4 days ... and gives top aftersales support.
IMO .... order kit w/o the Predator and save some bucks to put toward a dyno tune.
Surprized they even need to advertize ... word of mouth will keep them busy enough.
Not many street cars will match it. Fully installed price will run 10K.
And ... company ships in 4 days ... and gives top aftersales support.
IMO .... order kit w/o the Predator and save some bucks to put toward a dyno tune.
Surprized they even need to advertize ... word of mouth will keep them busy enough.
There is no way an STS car with 7-8lbs of boost will run 135mph traps. Maybe with a tricked out big ci motor, but even that would be difficult at that boost level.
I’m not saying the STS is a POS… but you are not being realistic at all.
Anyway, I saw the commercial and thought it was retarded. The car sounded like a ricer.
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The Vette in that commercial makes 600/600 to ground at 7 psi. on a stock bottom end.
600 pounds feet across the board, will run 10.5's with the right driver and tires. Brent EB is running 10.6's with an STS GTO, 4,000 lbs, with a stock bottom end. Only a 255 or 275 tire.
There are Viper and SRT STS kits as well.
600 pounds feet across the board, will run 10.5's with the right driver and tires. Brent EB is running 10.6's with an STS GTO, 4,000 lbs, with a stock bottom end. Only a 255 or 275 tire.
There are Viper and SRT STS kits as well.
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From: Minburn Ia
Originally Posted by QuickSilver2002
Where in the world are you getting these numbers? You STS guys are downright hilarious.
There is no way an STS car with 7-8lbs of boost will run 135mph traps. Maybe with a tricked out big ci motor, but even that would be difficult at that boost level.
I’m not saying the STS is a POS… but you are not being realistic at all.
Anyway, I saw the commercial and thought it was retarded. The car sounded like a ricer.
There is no way an STS car with 7-8lbs of boost will run 135mph traps. Maybe with a tricked out big ci motor, but even that would be difficult at that boost level.
I’m not saying the STS is a POS… but you are not being realistic at all.
Anyway, I saw the commercial and thought it was retarded. The car sounded like a ricer.
QuickSilver ... you need an education in twins. Maybe you are used to blowers with belts/pulleys ... that don't perform as well ....
The car has a rich, old school sound. Up there with the best of aftermarket C5 exhausts.
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From: Tx
Originally Posted by bernrex
Ricer my azz ...
QuickSilver ... you need an education in twins. Maybe you are used to blowers with belts/pulleys ... that don't perform as well ....
The car has a rich, old school sound. Up there with the best of aftermarket C5 exhausts.
QuickSilver ... you need an education in twins. Maybe you are used to blowers with belts/pulleys ... that don't perform as well ....
The car has a rich, old school sound. Up there with the best of aftermarket C5 exhausts.
Both the cars sound like ricers. That sounds exactly like a turbo honda to me. I know the car sounds better in person... Just think the commercial is a little weak. The smokey exh is also not very impressive.
I don't need an education in twins. I think some of the STS owners need a reality check.
It is so easy to talk about what a car could do.... Go do it and then we will talk.
You are misleading people by saying you can bolt on an STS kit, run 7-8 psi and do 10.5 at 135. No friggen way. I've tuned a stock c5 with an STS and I know for a fact that you will never run those times with 7-8 psi. It would take a lot more boost, not even sure if it can be done.
I'm not biased towards blowers... I just can't stand reading misleading bench racer info.
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From: Minburn Ia
Originally Posted by QuickSilver2002
I'm talking about the commercial. http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/f/Video..._VERSION_2.mpg
Both the cars sound like ricers. That sounds exactly like a turbo honda to me. I know the car sounds better in person... Just think the commercial is a little weak. The smokey exh is also not very impressive.
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Both the cars sound like ricers. That sounds exactly like a turbo honda to me. I know the car sounds better in person... Just think the commercial is a little weak. The smokey exh is also not very impressive.
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Yes ...these cars will run in 10's no problem. 550-600 RWHP will do it.
Recall the FGT makes 550-600 HP at the FLY ... and will do 11.1 @ 131 in 1/4.
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[QUOTE=QuickSilver2002]I'm talking about the commercial. http://i.b5z.net/i/u/1473169/f/Video..._VERSION_2.mpg
Both the cars sound like ricers. That sounds exactly like a turbo honda to me. I know the car sounds better in person... Just think the commercial is a little weak. The smokey exh is also not very impressive.
Wow if my Blower car sounded that bad I would by a ricer, that was a poor sounding comerical. Seems to me that the STS that I have heard about is putting out what the new ECS kit is on a stock bottom, based on the previous post of 600/600, Christwx is right there with his ECS kit and now that he has upgraded the fuel I bet he will post new numbers when he redynos his stock bottom.
What is really boils down to in the quarter is the driver and the power adder that you are happy with. I am very happy with my A&A DS1C setup and this was the best option available last year when I did my upgrade and I could not be happier with my 742/655 numbers that we did on pump gas and shut down the dyno at 6200 on 16 degrees of timing so I have more left in the bank, however I am not a track guy (I su$k at the 1/4), I just like to drive the **** out of it in the Hill Country around San Antonio, for me that is where I get the most fun
Both the cars sound like ricers. That sounds exactly like a turbo honda to me. I know the car sounds better in person... Just think the commercial is a little weak. The smokey exh is also not very impressive.
Wow if my Blower car sounded that bad I would by a ricer, that was a poor sounding comerical. Seems to me that the STS that I have heard about is putting out what the new ECS kit is on a stock bottom, based on the previous post of 600/600, Christwx is right there with his ECS kit and now that he has upgraded the fuel I bet he will post new numbers when he redynos his stock bottom.
What is really boils down to in the quarter is the driver and the power adder that you are happy with. I am very happy with my A&A DS1C setup and this was the best option available last year when I did my upgrade and I could not be happier with my 742/655 numbers that we did on pump gas and shut down the dyno at 6200 on 16 degrees of timing so I have more left in the bank, however I am not a track guy (I su$k at the 1/4), I just like to drive the **** out of it in the Hill Country around San Antonio, for me that is where I get the most fun
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From: Crooks SD
just watched the commercial and I can't describe the look on my face due to the sound of either car. 
Again, vipers have always sounded too "raspy" for me. I've always described them as two acura's have a "rev off" contest. Great potential, just not my thing.
The vette in the commercial has much more whistle than my FRC. Do I know why? nope. Perhaps it's the mic placement? Maybe it has the "upgraded" housings? No idea. All I know is, my STS FRC sounds "deeper" than that. If you want an even deeper sounds, get LT's and ditch the cats. Been there, done that too.
As far as adding fuel to the "what will these run in the 1/4" argument... I'll happily stay out. I'm a fan of the PROVE IT method. Go run it, then post your damn slip. I don't care what power adder, platform, HP, etc. If you're claiming you run X time before you run it, it's lame... period.
Again, vipers have always sounded too "raspy" for me. I've always described them as two acura's have a "rev off" contest. Great potential, just not my thing.
The vette in the commercial has much more whistle than my FRC. Do I know why? nope. Perhaps it's the mic placement? Maybe it has the "upgraded" housings? No idea. All I know is, my STS FRC sounds "deeper" than that. If you want an even deeper sounds, get LT's and ditch the cats. Been there, done that too.
As far as adding fuel to the "what will these run in the 1/4" argument... I'll happily stay out. I'm a fan of the PROVE IT method. Go run it, then post your damn slip. I don't care what power adder, platform, HP, etc. If you're claiming you run X time before you run it, it's lame... period.
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From: Tn
Originally Posted by QuickSilver2002
Where in the world are you getting these numbers? You STS guys are downright hilarious.
There is no way an STS car with 7-8lbs of boost will run 135mph traps. Maybe with a tricked out big ci motor, but even that would be difficult at that boost level.
I’m not saying the STS is a POS… but you are not being realistic at all.
Anyway, I saw the commercial and thought it was retarded. The car sounded like a ricer.
There is no way an STS car with 7-8lbs of boost will run 135mph traps. Maybe with a tricked out big ci motor, but even that would be difficult at that boost level.
I’m not saying the STS is a POS… but you are not being realistic at all.
Anyway, I saw the commercial and thought it was retarded. The car sounded like a ricer.
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From: Crooks SD
Originally Posted by mdhmi
I just don't buy it. 300 hp gain on 7 lbs of boost with a stock C5?. Riiiiiight.
Mark
bingo. I own one and even I think that's optimistic... at best.
on a side note, what's it take for a 3200lb car to trap 135?
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From: Minburn Ia
Originally Posted by mdhmi
I just don't buy it. 300 hp gain on 7 lbs of boost with a stock C5?. Riiiiiight.
Mark
Hell .... we've seen Prochargers on 8 lbs do that ... Riiiiight ?
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From: Minburn Ia
Originally Posted by Jesse_Boyer
bingo. I own one and even I think that's optimistic... at best.
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Originally Posted by bernrex
Hell .... we've seen Prochargers on 8 lbs do that ... Riiiiight ?
The forum member who, AFAIK, holds the stock LS1 P-1SC record ran high 10's at upper 120's and that was at 10-11 lbs of boost if memory serves with a race gas mix and a 1.4 or 1.5 sixty foot.
Mark
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I ran 128 mph (127.96 to be exact) at 7 lbs of boost from a Magnuson. I'm at 512 rwhp. 135 mph would take 75-100 more rwhp I think. If an STS kit can make @ 600 rwhp, then I would think it would trap 135. If it can't, then it won't. It's as simple as that.