STS Costs?
Le Mans Master
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: Metro Detroit Michigan
Originally Posted by VetteC501
I understand what your saying here, but I've heard that the STS kit shouldn't require as much tuning as your talking about. I'm not going to be mashing the throttle from stoplight to stoplight, just when I need to step on the gas I have a little extra over stock.
One place you should not try to save money is on the tune. This has everything to do with power, drivibility and longevity.
One thing I don't think anyone has mentioned is valve springs. Sometimes they're OK, sometimes they need to be replaced. A good tuner will know when he dials in the tune.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: Metro Detroit Michigan
Originally Posted by VetteC501
I understand what your saying here, but I've heard that the STS kit shouldn't require as much tuning as your talking about. I'm not going to be mashing the throttle from stoplight to stoplight, just when I need to step on the gas I have a little extra over stock.
One place you should not try to save money is on the tune. This has everything to do with power, drivibility and longevity.
One thing I don't think anyone has mentioned is valve springs. Sometimes they're OK, sometimes they need to be replaced. A good tuner will know If they need to be replaced when he dials in the tune.
Racer
Joined: Feb 2006
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From: Harrisburg PA
Originally Posted by VetteC501
Ok heres the deal, just talked to Chris at ECS and....
$8495 complete twin STS kit installed with dyno tuning.
It comes with a wastegate with modified springs so I shouldn't need 2 he said. Comes with a BOV and an updated air bridge that seemed to be a major concern after talking to everyone on the fourm. Also the kit comes with updates for life as well as a boost and fuel pressure guage installed in a pod on the pillar. Also he said they do a whole bunch of oil modifications that are not normally included in the standard STS kit. He said it's their own setup. I'm really considering doing this and he said of all his customers that had it done they all loved it!
$8495 complete twin STS kit installed with dyno tuning.
It comes with a wastegate with modified springs so I shouldn't need 2 he said. Comes with a BOV and an updated air bridge that seemed to be a major concern after talking to everyone on the fourm. Also the kit comes with updates for life as well as a boost and fuel pressure guage installed in a pod on the pillar. Also he said they do a whole bunch of oil modifications that are not normally included in the standard STS kit. He said it's their own setup. I'm really considering doing this and he said of all his customers that had it done they all loved it!
Le Mans Master
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: Metro Detroit Michigan
Originally Posted by VetteC501
I understand what your saying here, but I've heard that the STS kit shouldn't require as much tuning as your talking about. I'm not going to be mashing the throttle from stoplight to stoplight, just when I need to step on the gas I have a little extra over stock.
One place you should not try to save money is on the tune. This has everything to do with power, drivibility and longevity.
One thing I don't think anyone has mentioned is valve springs. Sometimes they're OK, sometimes they need to be replaced. A good tuner will know If they need to be replaced when he dials in the tune.
Cruising
Joined: Aug 2005
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I have an STS Z06, only thing done to the car. Running stock clutch now with the turbos for 15,000 miles and clutch has never slipped. I also don't dump the clutch off the line either and only power shifted the car a few times. However I run through the gears at least twice a day. It is all in how you drive it. This is my daily driver and was one of the kits from the first batch. Installed at ART in Austin, Texas.
Safety Car
Joined: Jun 2004
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From: Minburn Ia
Originally Posted by VetteC501
Ok heres the deal, just talked to Chris at ECS and....
$8495 complete twin STS kit installed with dyno tuning.
It comes with a wastegate with modified springs so I shouldn't need 2 he said. Comes with a BOV and an updated air bridge that seemed to be a major concern after talking to everyone on the fourm. Also the kit comes with updates for life as well as a boost and fuel pressure guage installed in a pod on the pillar. Also he said they do a whole bunch of oil modifications that are not normally included in the standard STS kit. He said it's their own setup. I'm really considering doing this and he said of all his customers that had it done they all loved it!
$8495 complete twin STS kit installed with dyno tuning.
It comes with a wastegate with modified springs so I shouldn't need 2 he said. Comes with a BOV and an updated air bridge that seemed to be a major concern after talking to everyone on the fourm. Also the kit comes with updates for life as well as a boost and fuel pressure guage installed in a pod on the pillar. Also he said they do a whole bunch of oil modifications that are not normally included in the standard STS kit. He said it's their own setup. I'm really considering doing this and he said of all his customers that had it done they all loved it!
Only several more ESSENTIALS will be needed to complete the necessary package for you. Get them to install an EBC before you do the dyno tune. It will make their job easier and later you will love the advantages the EBC offers. They can give you comparo dyno runs at the stock setting (6lbs)... and several others, 7 and 8 lbs.
I now leave mine on 8 lbs .... for that is where the real fun begins
Also .... have them give you a Level 7 Cartek clutch. You will need it to optimize your ride experience.
Finally ... get some stronger valve springs ( essential for the LS1 engine, and recommended for the LS6).
Don't cut corners .... it takes the total package + EBC, Clutch, and Valve Springs ... to make your car a dream to drive, which will hold the power.
All can be had for about 10K.
Safety Car
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From: Minburn Ia
Originally Posted by VetteC501
Ok heres the deal, just talked to Chris at ECS and....
$8495 complete twin STS kit installed with dyno tuning.
It comes with a wastegate with modified springs so I shouldn't need 2 he said. Comes with a BOV and an updated air bridge that seemed to be a major concern after talking to everyone on the fourm. Also the kit comes with updates for life as well as a boost and fuel pressure guage installed in a pod on the pillar. Also he said they do a whole bunch of oil modifications that are not normally included in the standard STS kit. He said it's their own setup. I'm really considering doing this and he said of all his customers that had it done they all loved it!
$8495 complete twin STS kit installed with dyno tuning.
It comes with a wastegate with modified springs so I shouldn't need 2 he said. Comes with a BOV and an updated air bridge that seemed to be a major concern after talking to everyone on the fourm. Also the kit comes with updates for life as well as a boost and fuel pressure guage installed in a pod on the pillar. Also he said they do a whole bunch of oil modifications that are not normally included in the standard STS kit. He said it's their own setup. I'm really considering doing this and he said of all his customers that had it done they all loved it!
This is a redo.Vette C501 .... I think you will like that price and what ECS can do for you.
Just add the following to the package ... and offer them 10K total.
EBC, Cartek clutch, and new stronger Valve Springs.
Well worth paying alittle more to get the Total Package ... which will give you the performance eventually needed. I had my job first done w/o these 3 additional items. Within 2 weeks ... I realized they would be essential to making full power and putting it to the pavement.
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Race Director
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From: ECS : WTF did you break now and HTF did you break it this time
Originally Posted by bernrex
Just add the following to the package ... and offer them 10K total.
EBC, Cartek clutch, and new stronger Valve Springs.
EBC, Cartek clutch, and new stronger Valve Springs.
Drifting
Joined: Sep 2004
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Being fast is MUCH MORE than just making a lot of power though. Don't just start throwing parts on your car. Come up with some goals and formulate a plan. You should do ALL your bolt-ons before you even think about a turbo (intake, throttle body, exhuast including headers, etc). Regardless of what your plan for your car is bolt-ons should be first. Next you should build your car to handle the power. You don't want to spend $10-$12k on a turbo and grenade your drivetrain. The stock clutch is very weak and inadaquate. Hell, even the Z06 clutch isn't great, and won't hold much more than stock hp for long. After you got your drivetrain ready to handle the power, you might want to think about getting it to the ground with suspension mods. After you've got your bolt-ons and set your car up to handle 450+ rwhp, THEN you add the power. It would royally suck if you just dropped $10k to put a turbo on your stock car and the first time out racing you break something costing thousands more. Do it once, do it right.
