Engine OIL COOLERS
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I just wanted to add my two cents here, since I have first hand experience on this stuff. The Ron Davis is a nice piece (I have it on my car now) but for a turbocharged car that will see track time I prefer to go with a separate cooler. The Ron Davis definitely works but I can tell you that the turbos add a lot of heat that could beneficially be removed more easily with a separate oil cooler. The only problem is mounting.
Although I haven't put the car up on the lift to check this, I suspect that one of two areas will work well -- one would be near the front license plate opening if you have one of those Halltech plates. The other would be near the Z06 grill openings to the sides of the license plate cover. There is frame nearby both and it would seem real easy to bolt a cooler in place right there (but again, I haven't looked). On C5s (not Z06) you may have to deal with fog lamps and potential wire relocation.
Although I haven't put the car up on the lift to check this, I suspect that one of two areas will work well -- one would be near the front license plate opening if you have one of those Halltech plates. The other would be near the Z06 grill openings to the sides of the license plate cover. There is frame nearby both and it would seem real easy to bolt a cooler in place right there (but again, I haven't looked). On C5s (not Z06) you may have to deal with fog lamps and potential wire relocation.
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From: Torrance CA
I will probably get mine from here:
http://www.anplumbing.com (look for oil coolers)
Earls also has some with little fans attached (not on the website). If you had a fan on it you could reduce the size. Probably don't need a fan though.
http://www.anplumbing.com (look for oil coolers)
Earls also has some with little fans attached (not on the website). If you had a fan on it you could reduce the size. Probably don't need a fan though.
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From: This city NEVER sleeps! Frank's back yard!
My 2 cents: I have the LPE 650++ as you know. I originally didn't have an oil cooler, and like you, the oil got very hot very quickly and simply would NOT cool down. Now, with the oil cooler it runs in the 180s range all day long. If the temps are in the 100s outside, and you're really bagging it hard, it'll get up to 200F, then a few miles of highway cruising, and its down into the 180s again. Another bonus, there is NO oil pressure drop whatsoever. Another bonus, it mounts BEHIND the rad/condensor down low, yet still works effortlessly, and doesn't increase the temps of the coolant. I highly recommend it!
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From: Valencia Ca
Originally Posted by Z06GMAN
Dan and others, did you notice any oil pressure drop???
Gary
Gary
When we use a separate cooler, keep the lines as short as possible and sized at least to -10, the drop is negligible.
Also, mount the cooler in a free flowing location or buy a cooler with a fan. The latter works well when mounted behind the front tire, behind the access door and then of course you must screen the access door. This location offers extremely short runs for the lines and cools very effectively.
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St. Jude Donor '08
I've run a sepparate oil cooler for a few years now. I run a Becool rad. The cooler has no pressure drop, and really helps out on the roadcourse and hard canyon runs!!
Mine is mounted in front of the rad on the drivers side. I still have no problems with coolant temps!!
JB
Mine is mounted in front of the rad on the drivers side. I still have no problems with coolant temps!!
JB
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From: Aurora IL
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Originally Posted by DDSLT5
My 2 cents: I have the LPE 650++ as you know. I originally didn't have an oil cooler, and like you, the oil got very hot very quickly and simply would NOT cool down. Now, with the oil cooler it runs in the 180s range all day long. If the temps are in the 100s outside, and you're really bagging it hard, it'll get up to 200F, then a few miles of highway cruising, and its down into the 180s again. Another bonus, there is NO oil pressure drop whatsoever. Another bonus, it mounts BEHIND the rad/condensor down low, yet still works effortlessly, and doesn't increase the temps of the coolant. I highly recommend it!
Both sides of the front (nose) has the the air filters..................man I am running out of room
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From: Aurora IL
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Originally Posted by Earl H
Rear brake duct area?
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From: Torrance CA
Originally Posted by CharlieTuner@AandACorvette
I see a 5-PSI to 10-PSI drop with the integrated cooler in the Ron Davis set-up.
When we use a separate cooler, keep the lines as short as possible and sized at least to -10, the drop is negligible.
Also, mount the cooler in a free flowing location or buy a cooler with a fan. The latter works well when mounted behind the front tire, behind the access door and then of course you must screen the access door. This location offers extremely short runs for the lines and cools very effectively.
When we use a separate cooler, keep the lines as short as possible and sized at least to -10, the drop is negligible.
Also, mount the cooler in a free flowing location or buy a cooler with a fan. The latter works well when mounted behind the front tire, behind the access door and then of course you must screen the access door. This location offers extremely short runs for the lines and cools very effectively.
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From: Valencia Ca
Originally Posted by hpcubed
What size cooler do you fit in there?
Type: DB-30417 2-Pass
Dimensions: 14 3/4" x 6 1/4" x 2 3/4"
Weight: 6 3/4" lbs
Capacity: 1.15 qts
Connections: (2) AN-12 & (1) 1/2" NPT
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From: This city NEVER sleeps! Frank's back yard!
Originally Posted by Z06GMAN
Do you have a picture were it is mounted? I have pipes going to the IC in the center of the car so I don't know if that location will work for me. Behind the front wheel is out, I have my Vacuum pump in there Both sides of the front (nose) has the the air filters..................man I am running out of room
Both sides of the front (nose) has the the air filters..................man I am running out of roomTell ya what brother - I'll get a few shots tomorrow if I get a chance!
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From: Park Ridge Illinois
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Originally Posted by DDSLT5
My 2 cents: I have the LPE 650++ as you know. I originally didn't have an oil cooler, and like you, the oil got very hot very quickly and simply would NOT cool down. Now, with the oil cooler it runs in the 180s range all day long. If the temps are in the 100s outside, and you're really bagging it hard, it'll get up to 200F, then a few miles of highway cruising, and its down into the 180s again. Another bonus, there is NO oil pressure drop whatsoever. Another bonus, it mounts BEHIND the rad/condensor down low, yet still works effortlessly, and doesn't increase the temps of the coolant. I highly recommend it!
In the process of doing an LPE oil and B&M tranny cooler right now. Need to bring those temps down a bit from last summer. Not sure if we'll get to it this weekend though, we need to finish Magnetic ride conversion and 14" Wilwood brake upgrade. Maybe I'll have some pics this weekend for ya.
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sorry if this has already been said!
if i were you guys then i would look into a oil to water cooler! i have seen them used on mid engined SBC cars and they wor great. running oil temps are reached quicker and you hold a constant oil temp better! also means you dont need to try and mount an oil cooler in the air flow!
only downside is you need to fine about a fott and a hlf of straight coolent pipe to mount the cooler into! but i think they are well worth it as do many race cars!
thanks Chris.
if i were you guys then i would look into a oil to water cooler! i have seen them used on mid engined SBC cars and they wor great. running oil temps are reached quicker and you hold a constant oil temp better! also means you dont need to try and mount an oil cooler in the air flow!
only downside is you need to fine about a fott and a hlf of straight coolent pipe to mount the cooler into! but i think they are well worth it as do many race cars!
thanks Chris.
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From: Brighton
Originally Posted by CharlieTuner@AandACorvette
Fluidyne
Type: DB-30417 2-Pass
Dimensions: 14 3/4" x 6 1/4" x 2 3/4"
Weight: 6 3/4" lbs
Capacity: 1.15 qts
Connections: (2) AN-12 & (1) 1/2" NPT
Type: DB-30417 2-Pass
Dimensions: 14 3/4" x 6 1/4" x 2 3/4"
Weight: 6 3/4" lbs
Capacity: 1.15 qts
Connections: (2) AN-12 & (1) 1/2" NPT
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From: This city NEVER sleeps! Frank's back yard!
Originally Posted by Z06GMAN
Thanks to all you guys for the helpWithout getting it up on a lift (which I can do for you if you want) getting a pic is very tough. The cooler mounts in front of the power steering cooler, but below it so as to not overheat that cooler. It is also such that air can flow from under the rad to hit the oil cooler. Do you want some pics from below?
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From: Stealth So Cal GOCC ...comming to invade your neighborhood soon
Originally Posted by DDSLT5
Without getting it up on a lift (which I can do for you if you want) getting a pic is very tough. The cooler mounts in front of the power steering cooler, but below it so as to not overheat that cooler. It is also such that air can flow from under the rad to hit the oil cooler. Do you want some pics from below?
and maybe even a link.