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Old Jul 1, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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I have to admit the hood does not look bad. It actually gives the C5's a more aggressive look. What kind of heat extraction does the hood come with?
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FRCTony
Ken,

Glad to have you here!

Any chance you can put some more pics which show all details of the installed system?

Would it be possible to download the manual or make some of the images in the manual available for download?

I am eagerly awaiting dyno results and impressions on LS1 cars which are daily drivers.
Thanks! Glad to be here!

Sorry it took a while to answer, but with the Fourth and all plus the fact we were already slammed, I just now got a chance to get back to you.

As far as photos go, we have several on our website at http://kennebell.net. We have a bunch of photos of the installed kit too that are not on the site. I'll see if I can get some and post 'em up.

The manual computer files are huge, so we do not have a downloadable version, sorry. We spend a ton of time on our manuals, and devote a photo and caption for virtually every single nut, bolt, screw, washer, hose.... everything. When people look at them, they think, OMG, this is going to take a year to install because the manuals are so huge, but the opposite is really true. We leave nothing to chance or guesswork. If you simply follow step-by-step, you can have the whole kit installed within less than two working days using ordinary hand tools.

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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Vince99FRC
I have to admit the hood does not look bad. It actually gives the C5's a more aggressive look. What kind of heat extraction does the hood come with?
Thanks, we don't think it looks bad either!

Currently, there is no heat extraction provision for the hood. We are not experiencing any extreme heat problems - remember the stock hood has no heat extraction provision either, BUT, we will be conducting some tests measuring underhood temperatures, then experimenting with some sort of heat reduction vents if needed.

The problem (as you will notice with most OEMs; they do not have functional vents) is typically any venting system can allow water / debris to enter the engine compartment and mess up your beautiful engine and supercharger kit, so we want to stay away from this if possible.

At any rate, if we find venting dramatically reduces underhood temperatures, and determine a practical way to provide some extraction, we will pursue this. We have already discussed this with RK Sport, and they are more than willing to work with us to implement them.

Back to the dyno!

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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AMERICAN_HP
Hey Ken... I'll be seeing you guys this thursday.

As you mentioned earlier, your right, I didnt have the manual ( Actually its a novel ) so I wasnt sure if that was something that had been mentioned in there. We were just shocked when we noticed it, so I didnt want him to chance it.

The attention to detail and commitment to a 100% perfect kit that Kenne Bell puts into their system is second to none.
Like when you, Jim, and I were on conference call that one day and I brought up concerns with the hood. Jims response was "If I think for 1 second that the hood isnt 100% right, I will immediatly scrap the entire mold." That just goes to show your guys commitment.


See you in a few days..

Jeff
Thanks Jeff!

Man, I am late answering this! You are already here!!!

Hey, we can't wait to get your badd-*** car on our dyno and do some intense tesing!

We'll probably start a new thread to update everyone on the progress, but we'll leave that up to Jeff - it's his car after all!

We love the car and can't wait to get started!

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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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Well it just came into day everything but the hood . Everything looks really good just waiting on my clutch and 90mm TB they should be here soon. Here are some pics http://68.35.5.162/kb.htm

The install will be done by Scotty's Southwest Corvettes INC. Here in Albuquerque,NM
BTW GhostOfFreedom,

Thanks very much for your purchase, and I didn't mean to hijack your thread! I hope no offense was taken!

Good luck on the install, and please don't hesitate to contact me personally if you have any questions at kenc@kennebell.net.

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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KBTECH
Thanks, we don't think it looks bad either!

Currently, there is no heat extraction provision for the hood. We are not experiencing any extreme heat problems - remember the stock hood has no heat extraction provision either, BUT, we will be conducting some tests measuring underhood temperatures, then experimenting with some sort of heat reduction vents if needed.

The problem (as you will notice with most OEMs; they do not have functional vents) is typically any venting system can allow water / debris to enter the engine compartment and mess up your beautiful engine and supercharger kit, so we want to stay away from this if possible.

At any rate, if we find venting dramatically reduces underhood temperatures, and determine a practical way to provide some extraction, we will pursue this. We have already discussed this with RK Sport, and they are more than willing to work with us to implement them.

Back to the dyno!

Regards,

Ken
Good luck with these guys. I hope they have a better system and product than they had 2 years ago. I'm sure the heat issue needs to be addressed. I have a maggie with a MCM C/F hood. Wish they would make one, the heat extractor works great or one like the stinger for the PTK kits. I think its a one off hood. The rains not the issue, most folks don't drive in the rain. And the heat kills the performance. The only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger is the hood and its manufactuer.
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gdphillipsvette
Ken,
Thanks for your post. Any chance KB is looking at offering an "MCM-type" heat extraction hood as an option to your hi-rise?

Love the SC, but just don't care for the hood.

Thanks, Gordon
I just saw the hood for the first time (only in pictures previously) and I'm going to have to change my impression - it actually looks very cool!

Gordon
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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Curious, does anyone know the weight of the s/c with the intake manifoild combined?

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Old Jul 7, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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What does one of these sound like at idle, cruise, and WOT? Are they quiet or loud?
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Curious, does anyone know the weight of the s/c with the intake manifoild combined?

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Yes, I do. It is 70 Lbs.

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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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What does one of these sound like at idle, cruise, and WOT? Are they quiet or loud?
Idle - slight whistle, virtually unnoticeable unless the hood is up, and you are listening closely.

Cruise - nothing; no noise at all. Sounds totally stock.

WOT - a beautiful whine you will totally love.

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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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WOT - a beautiful whine you will totally love.

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Love to hear that....I think everyone is waiting for someone to post a vid.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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Ken,
I'm also at 5,000 ft elevation in Albuquerque. Do you ship out a different tune for us hi-altitude folks that are installing a KB?

Gordon
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KBTECH
Currently, there is no heat extraction provision for the hood. We are not experiencing any extreme heat problems - remember the stock hood has no heat extraction provision either, BUT, we will be conducting some tests measuring underhood temperatures, then experimenting with some sort of heat reduction vents if needed.

The problem (as you will notice with most OEMs; they do not have functional vents) is typically any venting system can allow water / debris to enter the engine compartment and mess up your beautiful engine and supercharger kit, so we want to stay away from this if possible.

At any rate, if we find venting dramatically reduces underhood temperatures, and determine a practical way to provide some extraction, we will pursue this. We have already discussed this with RK Sport, and they are more than willing to work with us to implement them.

Back to the dyno!

Regards,

Ken
Unless you are dyno racing there is little thermal advantage. Aerodynamics are worse with vents at high speed.

I've placed thermal transducers and manometers all over the engine bay to answer that question about heat extraction and most of you with the vented hoods will not like the answer so, I suggest that you buy or sell what makes you feel good and don't let the empirical data get in the way of a good looking vet.

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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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If that was the case then neither the C5R or C6R would run them.
I've NEVER known a "Factory" team to do something that was totally useless.

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Unless you are dyno racing there is little thermal advantage. Aerodynamics are worse with vents at high speed.

I've placed thermal transducers and manometers all over the engine bay to answer that question about heat extraction and most of you with the vented hoods will not like the answer so, I suggest that you buy or sell what makes you feel good and dont let the imperiacal data get in the way of a good looking vet.
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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 04:10 AM
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im sorry but saying forcing air out the top of the car rather than letting it go under the car or get trapped under the the wheel liners is bad for ayro is just pure ****!!!!!!!

think about it for a second! you are moving air from ground level up to the top of the bonnet. now thats going to create downforce! now thats good for a car!

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Old Jul 9, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by chuntington101
im sorry but saying forcing air out the top of the car rather than letting it go under the car or get trapped under the the wheel liners is bad for ayro is just pure ****!!!!!!!

think about it for a second! you are moving air from ground level up to the top of the bonnet. now thats going to create downforce! now thats good for a car!

Chris.
Pardon my ignorance, but I dont understand what you mean.. Are you making a statement?? Who are you directing this post towards??
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I'm also at 5,000 ft elevation in Albuquerque. Do you ship out a different tune for us hi-altitude folks that are installing a KB?

Gordon
Hey Gordon.

We do not change the calibration for elevation, because everything is relative, meaning since you have less atmospheric pressure available, you will show less boost, but the power gain is relative. Many want to add boost at higher elevations, because somehow they think they are being cheated in the power department, but in reality if they were to dyno the car before the supercharger, they would see they had less stock hp to begin with than their counterparts at lower elevations. The gains are relative to the "starting" or "base" hp.

We typically do not recommend changing pulleys if you are "at elevation". If you were to do this, you may get away with it at elevation if you had the octane to support it, but the engine could detonate at lower elevations with that same pulley. Additionally, gas stations at higher elevations do not offer even 91 octane because they know engines will produce less power and do not require the same octane as with lower elevations - another reason we do not recommend swapping to a smaller pulley at elevation. However, if you have at least 91 octane available, you can usually get away with a pound more boost.

Your BARO (compensation for elevation; or atmospheric pressure) readings are still functionally the same as they were before in your new calibration for things like cranking fuel, BARO knock gain, AE fuel, etc, so they would be automatically compensated for.

Hope this answers your question.

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Old Jul 12, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Wow, it's neat to see a local got a KB!

I saw a silver Z today with an aftermarket hood. It made me wonder if it had a KB or Magna. The hood was very different though so I'm guessing it was a Magna.

Do you visit the dragstrip? I would love to check out your car when it's done.

Congrats! Can't wait to hear your results!
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Hey GhostOfFreedom, would it be too much trouble to post more pictures of the hood? Like, from farther away so we can see how the hood looks with the whole car?
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