STS for Bragging ONLY??
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From: los angeles calif.
Originally Posted by Red C5
So I've been wondering for a while... Although I have never been a fan of the STS setup, I have kept an open mind about the system. What I have yet to see though, is any kind of dyno sheets, time slips, etc. that show the system is a REAL DEAL TT setup. IMO, I think the STS sytem is for those that will never do anything with their car other that brag to people that, "they have a twin turbo Corvette".
I hope I do not come off as harsh, as I think it's a very creative system. But I have yet to see something that makes me say WOW, ie Nick with his ET and mph his first time out, Shinobi with his dyno numbers back in the day, LPE and all their accomplishemnts back in the day, etc.....
Anyone have anything real with the STS?
I hope I do not come off as harsh, as I think it's a very creative system. But I have yet to see something that makes me say WOW, ie Nick with his ET and mph his first time out, Shinobi with his dyno numbers back in the day, LPE and all their accomplishemnts back in the day, etc.....
Anyone have anything real with the STS?
. but if you don't have any time slips i understand cause i dont have any ether(YET)! so dont trip
but if you do i would enjoy reading about it and i wont think your bargging 
remember win or lose save the wave peace
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Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
STS? Bragging rights? Cajundude (Jason) took me for a ride in his crazy machine - and that thing hit harder and pulled much harder than my (kinda stock) Paxton - and I was definitely in the 600rwhp+ range before I toasted my engine.
I like the STS system. I think it kicks a$$
I like the STS system. I think it kicks a$$
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Originally Posted by undertaker
admit it EG grond was scared **** I would show up at the cruise in and hand out a beatdown.......so grond ate that lil LS1 before it had to deal.
Cajundude is pulling 14.5psi, Steve. Just a "tad" more than your setup
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From: ECS : WTF did you break now and HTF did you break it this time
Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
Cajundude is pulling 14.5psi, Steve. Just a "tad" more than your setup 
I kinda have this special ability to destroy drivelines.......with stock power levels....
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From: Minburn Ia
Originally Posted by QuickSilver2002
It is almost odd how nobody posts any track results, yet there are tons of guys posting impressions.... back in the day when blowers first got popular with the c5 crowed all you heard was track times being thrown around. The STS TT crew just seems to stay away from the track for some reason.
Cajundude's setup shows it has some potential but that is on a fully built 408 with all the goodies.
Cajundude's setup shows it has some potential but that is on a fully built 408 with all the goodies.
I'm still deciding if I want to do the Roll Bar and 5-point in my daily driver coupe. Doing all this, takes away from the stealth of the system.
If I don't ... its pointless to drive 200 miles ... only to get booted off the track after several runs.
Only CajunDude seems intent on going the hardcore route.
What you need is a ride in one. In Calif. there should be a number of locals that could give you an STS Experience.
Get your ride ... then come back and give us your review.
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Originally Posted by gary buchanan
what type of turbo system do you have? what are your dyno #s. if you don't mind me asking? and if you have a time slip it wood be nice . but if you don't have any time slips i understand cause i dont have any ether(YET)! so dont trip but if you do i would enjoy reading about it and i wont think your bargging remember win or lose save the wave peace
. but if you don't have any time slips i understand cause i dont have any ether(YET)! so dont trip but if you do i would enjoy reading about it and i wont think your bargging remember win or lose save the wave peaceturbo @ 9 psi 11.7 @ 129.98mph (Supra style
) approx 550rwhpprocharger @ 7 psi 11.1 @ 123mph approx 460 rwhp
procharger @ 13psi 11.4 @ 132mph approx 600rwhp
Hope that helps ya out.
I'll address some of the other comments seperately as well. Also,ome of you guys are a little overly defensive.
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Originally Posted by Cajundude
With all due respect, are you are blind? I've seen several dyno sheets including mine posted on here. I've also been to the track and was kicked off. I don't know of the real capabilities at the track yet because I was making baby runs. Is 136 in the quarter on a baby run real enough for you? Or how about a 11.50 at 79 mph? Or how about 110 mph 1/8th mile. All of which were done on 3500-4K launches so I didn't break time limits. Or, how about the run that kicked me off with over a 2.0 60ft (tried to sleep across the line) and the car still ran an 11.19 at 136. I am in the process of nailing down a custom built cage and that should start this week. Once I have that, I will go have fun at the track and take some real runs. As far as I'm concerned, the kit is great.
Braggin' is for beotches. Dyno numbers are worthless IMO as well. Track times are what counts. I can point you to my dyno sheets if ya really want to see them.
Braggin' is for beotches. Dyno numbers are worthless IMO as well. Track times are what counts. I can point you to my dyno sheets if ya really want to see them.
Your numbers are very impressive and I would say THE BEST STS numbers. I don't know the full details of your car and the set up. I'll see if I can find a thread about it. Based on what I read in this thread though I gather you have a forged 408 and you were running almost 15psi to achieve your results? How does that compare to TTi, LPE, PTK kit? I don't remeber the setup Nick Yoskin has maybe he can chime in on comparison? Thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by gary buchanan
that depends on what you call you call the real deal the system works.i have a few dyno sheets my frist dyno at 5.5lbs.put down 493rwhp/454wrtq.real fat a/f at 12.1 my second dyno at 6.5 did 524rwhp and i think the tq. was around 491 with a genetic tune out of the box.car ran like he!! tires break loose mid way in 3rd gear and 4th makes the hair stand up on the back of your neck when you don't aspect it 
, the frist time it happen i thougt it was that **** i did in the seventys came back to haunt me 
so i did it again thank god it was the turbos kicking in right now my car is down lucky no.7 went out. but it's ok andy& charle hooked me up with a 346 FORGED SHORT BLOCK eric at bottlefed is doing the install with a few other goodies. and when its done ill be glad to post some#s. peace and save the wave.
, the frist time it happen i thougt it was that **** i did in the seventys came back to haunt me so i did it again thank god it was the turbos kicking in right now my car is down lucky no.7 went out. but it's ok andy& charle hooked me up with a 346 FORGED SHORT BLOCK eric at bottlefed is doing the install with a few other goodies. and when its done ill be glad to post some#s. peace and save the wave.
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From: Bay Area CA
Originally Posted by Hammer
I have the STS setup, what does REAL DEAL mean? That the turbos work? Look at the dynos.
If the system is such a POS that what good would bragging about it be?
The people I know wouldn't know the difference between a twin turbo and an oil filter.
I wanted my car to perform like stock until I was into boost, this kit does if for me. By ~2,000 I'm into boost (I don't know when I'm in full boost, I can't watch the boost and tach at the same time at that rate).
The front mount systems are going to give it to you how much sooner?
What started my infatuation with turbo's on my vette was a ride in an LPE 427 TT, the car was simply incredible. It had turbo lag as well.
Is it possible that you don't like the system because you can't brag about it, you feel that you have to explain off that the turbos are in the rear.
If the system is such a POS that what good would bragging about it be?
The people I know wouldn't know the difference between a twin turbo and an oil filter.
I wanted my car to perform like stock until I was into boost, this kit does if for me. By ~2,000 I'm into boost (I don't know when I'm in full boost, I can't watch the boost and tach at the same time at that rate).
The front mount systems are going to give it to you how much sooner?
What started my infatuation with turbo's on my vette was a ride in an LPE 427 TT, the car was simply incredible. It had turbo lag as well.
Is it possible that you don't like the system because you can't brag about it, you feel that you have to explain off that the turbos are in the rear.
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Originally Posted by undertaker
11.19 at 126 with a 1.9 60 ft.....
and I missed 4th adn teh clutch was at the point the car wouldn't move 2 passes later...03 Z06 with a hurst and the sts kit..
553/489 as well
and I missed 4th adn teh clutch was at the point the car wouldn't move 2 passes later...03 Z06 with a hurst and the sts kit..
553/489 as well
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Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
STS? Bragging rights? Cajundude (Jason) took me for a ride in his crazy machine - and that thing hit harder and pulled much harder than my (kinda stock) Paxton - and I was definitely in the 600rwhp+ range before I toasted my engine.
I like the STS system. I think it kicks a$$
I like the STS system. I think it kicks a$$
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Red, there are almost a dozen STS rear mounts coming out with 750+ rwhp or more. There are some others putting down 800 to over 900 rwhp. now. The kits have been out for about eight months. Getting into the product cycle and into summer, I expect to see a lot more track times. Tell me, how many PTK and TTIX C5's have run on the track and low nines. How long have those kits been out? How many Vortech (if at all) or Procharger C5's have run nines?
Cajundude (MTI) 402, 800/800
HeavyChevy (MTI) 427, 750+
Steath (Cartek) 900+ rwhp, 388
Blowerboy (Vette Doctors) Who Knows, 402
Major Spray (Vette Doctors), 427
C6TT"something" Timing would help out his graph a lot.
FRC Tom 18 PSI 402
Garret 18 PSI 408
Silas (ECS) 20+ PSI 427
Myself (Synergy)conservative 10-15 psi on a fully built 427
There are three other cars/trucks I know of that are putting down 800+ with the STS setups.
I expect Major Spray and Silas to be putting down some really serious rwhp.. as those are single purpose (straight line) built cars. Soon they will calling the PRO 8, the PRO 7 and then the PRO 6.
I would suggest you check out the Drag Racing section.
There are all bringing serious weapons to the track this season.
Cajundude (MTI) 402, 800/800
HeavyChevy (MTI) 427, 750+
Steath (Cartek) 900+ rwhp, 388
Blowerboy (Vette Doctors) Who Knows, 402
Major Spray (Vette Doctors), 427
C6TT"something" Timing would help out his graph a lot.
FRC Tom 18 PSI 402
Garret 18 PSI 408
Silas (ECS) 20+ PSI 427
Myself (Synergy)conservative 10-15 psi on a fully built 427
There are three other cars/trucks I know of that are putting down 800+ with the STS setups.
I expect Major Spray and Silas to be putting down some really serious rwhp.. as those are single purpose (straight line) built cars. Soon they will calling the PRO 8, the PRO 7 and then the PRO 6.
I would suggest you check out the Drag Racing section.There are all bringing serious weapons to the track this season.
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Originally Posted by #001 2001 Z06
Tell me, how many PTK and TTIX C5's have run on the track and low nines.
The mid to low 9 that I think you are referring to isn't an STS kit if memory serves - that was a one off rear mounted single turbo on a C5-R motor, tricked out AFR 225 heads, etc. Still very impressive, don't get me wrong.
Cheers,
Mark
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Originally Posted by #001 2001 Z06
Red, there are almost a dozen STS rear mounts coming out with 750+ rwhp or more. There are some others putting down 800 to over 900 rwhp. now. The kits have been out for about eight months. Getting into the product cycle and into summer, I expect to see a lot more track times. Tell me, how many PTK and TTIX C5's have run on the track and low nines. How long have those kits been out? How many Vortech (if at all) or Procharger C5's have run nines?
Cajundude (MTI) 402, 800/800
HeavyChevy (MTI) 427, 750+
Steath (Cartek) 900+ rwhp, 388
Blowerboy (Vette Doctors) Who Knows, 402
Major Spray (Vette Doctors), 427
C6TT"something" Timing would help out his graph a lot.
FRC Tom 18 PSI 402
Garret 18 PSI 408
Silas (ECS) 20+ PSI 427
Myself (Synergy)conservative 10-15 psi on a fully built 427
There are three other cars/trucks I know of that are putting down 800+ with the STS setups.
I expect Major Spray and Silas to be putting down some really serious rwhp.. as those are single purpose (straight line) built cars. Soon they will calling the PRO 8, the PRO 7 and then the PRO 6. I would suggest you check out the Drag Racing section.
There are all bringing serious weapons to the track this season.
Cajundude (MTI) 402, 800/800
HeavyChevy (MTI) 427, 750+
Steath (Cartek) 900+ rwhp, 388
Blowerboy (Vette Doctors) Who Knows, 402
Major Spray (Vette Doctors), 427
C6TT"something" Timing would help out his graph a lot.
FRC Tom 18 PSI 402
Garret 18 PSI 408
Silas (ECS) 20+ PSI 427
Myself (Synergy)conservative 10-15 psi on a fully built 427
There are three other cars/trucks I know of that are putting down 800+ with the STS setups.
I expect Major Spray and Silas to be putting down some really serious rwhp.. as those are single purpose (straight line) built cars. Soon they will calling the PRO 8, the PRO 7 and then the PRO 6.
I would suggest you check out the Drag Racing section.There are all bringing serious weapons to the track this season.
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Earl, not sure yet. I have no really idea until it happens. We could make the rightful presumption that cubes indeed makes a difference. Of course Stealth 9.33/149 was on a 388. Which answers Marks question, no not a C5R 427. A 388 and it is a Cartek designed STS single kit.
There were two more major observations, I did note in the Road & Track shootout with all the high hp cars (Viper included). A lot of people would be surprised. I will be back late, got to go.
There were two more major observations, I did note in the Road & Track shootout with all the high hp cars (Viper included). A lot of people would be surprised. I will be back late, got to go.
Last edited by #001 2001 Z06; Jun 5, 2006 at 06:04 PM.
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That is the bigest pile of rubish I have seen posted in a while Brent.
The only real "running" STS car on the list is Cajundude.
The rest are custom one off pieces that have little or nothing to do with STS.
In addition, try comparing apples to apples before you "beat up" other products.
Phil
The only real "running" STS car on the list is Cajundude.
The rest are custom one off pieces that have little or nothing to do with STS.
In addition, try comparing apples to apples before you "beat up" other products.
Phil
Last edited by RoadRebel; Jun 5, 2006 at 06:06 PM.
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Originally Posted by RoadRebel
That is the bigest pile of rubish I have seen posted in a while Brent.
The only real "running" STS car on the list is Cajundude.
The rest are custom one off pieces that have little or nothing to do with STS.
Phil
The only real "running" STS car on the list is Cajundude.
The rest are custom one off pieces that have little or nothing to do with STS.
Phil
Last edited by #001 2001 Z06; Jun 5, 2006 at 06:16 PM.
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Not sure about other people but as far as the kit, I am running exactly what STS sent me with the kit including the base model turbos.