9secz06

Anyone know where to get the material sleeve like slp supplies with
there headers. I am looking for that style just larger to do my fuel
lines to help out temps.

9secz06

I don't know if that is the right terminology or not. Does anyone know
what it is called and where I can find it.

blu00rdstr

I'm planning to do that also. If you check temp rating of fuel hoses it's usually 200degrees, which is lower than normal underhood or undercar temps. In theory what they're selling for fuel hoses should NOT be used for automotive applications.

The local speed shops (both of them) carry heat protection sleeves. JEGS and Summit probably have it also.

Edit: 'Heat sheild' is the general term, also try searching for the brand 'Thermo Tec'
JEGS http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...erm=thermo+tec
Summit http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...alse&N=700+115

9secz06

Cool I will check that out. I was going to use it to cover the fuel lines
that I got from Andy because of my exhaust/charge pipes and it is also near one header.

0Brian@FI Performance

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ajg1915

http://www.keefeperformance.com/

9secz06

You are the man sir. I found the material on the site. I believe this is
the one.
http://www.keefeperformance.com/aerosleeve.html

Z06Samuel

Great info on this post!
Sam

ONE BMF

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9secz06

Yeah I know it's a name I can grow into.

blu00rdstr

So, went out and got a thermal sleeve big enough for three hoses ($30). Looks like one of my Christmas present wrap jobs. Not exactly the look I was going for, I'll just keep the hood closed. I also sprung for the plug wire sleeves ($30/set of four). Those were from Goodies speed shop in San Jose, one of the pricier places to buy parts (but they had them on the shelf).

I would suggest a thermal sleeve for each hose rather than for a bundle. It'll cost more, but it would look better.

BLOWNZO6

Personally I think you are wasting your time and money to do this.
I have worked on several dozen cars and have never seen anything to make me believe there is a reason for doing this.

Just my opinion.

9secz06

Well the way I figure it can only help the situation, I don't see where
it will make it worse. I respect your opinion though.
Thanks.

edit:
Maybe I installed it wrong. Should the fuel line be near the longtube or
is there another route?

RED99

http://www.heatshieldproducts.com/index.php

blu00rdstr

This is from one of my two fuel leaks, the other leak was a hairline stream onto the over the axle exhaust pipe.







The stains on the exhaust pipe are from gasoline spraying on it (left side of pic). This pic was taken after I replaced the hose.

blu00rdstr

There's another route; inside the rocker panels, so from the tank to the drivers' side rocker panel to the drivers' side front fender. The caveat is that anything that crushes the rocker panel can slice the hose open (e.g.; going off the track or road sideways). A metal pipe could serve as armor, and a straight pipe can slide into the rocker panel with the rear tire removed.

BLOWNZO6

Sorry not sure what the point is... ?

If you want to do it, that is fine, not trying to convince anyone either way... but I have never had to use the stuff. It is not cheap. The only place I use it on the turbo cars is on the starter wires since they are close to the DP, never on the fuel lines.

If you had a fuel line burst due to heat you probably were either too close to the exhaust where you ran the line or did not use the proper line. I have never had an issue with the line I use and I would never use a straight rubber line. EDIT - I see the rubber line you are using... I would never use that for fuel line and I don't use pushlock connectors either.. I use the Earl's ProLine 350 line and the proper connectors for the line.

Like I say.. it is your money, do what you want. I generally don't try to reinvent the wheel. I am more often than not doing this for someone and I don't spend any more of their money (and consequently my time) than is necessary.

blu00rdstr

The point is that carrying highly flammable liquid through a hose rated below temperatures expected in a passenger car environment is a serious risk. The person accepting that risk is either the company advertising the product as a fuel hose with a 302F rating, or the installer who determines the product is appropriate for the application.

Normal underhood and underbody (air channel shared with cat/exhaust pipe) air temperatures vary from 200F to 300F. Radiated heat and air convection from exhaust manifolds and catalytic converters raise the temperature even higher, especially after shutdown. Cautions for the hose state that when exceeding the max rating, "life expectancy of the hose may be greatly reduced". To mitigate the thermal risk, Aeroquip also recommends 'firesleeve' for hose near high heat: "The use of Firesleeve is recommended for high ambient temperatures, especially near headers or exhaust systems." (Ref: http://www.aeroquip.com/pages/perfor...ical_info.html)


What is advertised as 302F automotive fuel hose, actually has a 200F max rating (page 3):
http://hydraulics.eaton.com/products...Q-MC001-E1.pdf

BLOWNZO6

I think that goes to both of our points... using the right material for job.


This is the only type of line I use. Never have had an issue.
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...5&autoview=sku

9secz06

Looking at BLOWNBLUEZ06 thread pictures I did route mine wrong I think.