dude, your in tampa. i recomend you talked to jeremy from faster proms for tuning. i still recomend you do a wet plate kit from nitro daves. he can hook you up with everything you need to have a safe/reliable system that will give you a big smile.

 

My car from the previous owner had all his work performed by Greg Lovell at Antivenom (they do a lot of articles in "Vette Magazine"), and there's another shop specializing in Corvette's that just moved to Sarasota from Tampa "RevExtreme".

Where is Faster Proms located? I've never heard of them.

 

he is a site sponser. just look to your left.

 

Stainless steel burst panels,...that go into the bottom of my manifold. Here's a pic of the ones I installed. Instead of the manifold blowing up...these will relieve themselves and burst..... therefore they would have to be replaced. 130 bucks if I remember but,..considering ruining another manifold...worth it.

 

If you're going to have a wet system I'd suggest an rpm arming switch so you don't shoot nitrous too early or continue spraying until you hit the rev limiter which might cause a backfire. Also strongly think you'd want a lean cutoff switch of some sort. Cheap insurance for a motor.

I don't plan on shooting nitrous below 3500 rpm in 2nd gear and don't plan on spraying above 6500 rpm. This of course is on a forged stroker that's been built to go that high. I'm hoping that by 3500 rpm the air velocity in my intake is high enough to eliminate fuel pooling. My decision was made to get a wet system with the advent of the "P" Gauge. It has all the built in saftey features I'd want.


For a dry I'd want a fuel pressure saftey switch and some way to make sure I was accounting for the timing. Also really want to find a way to to make sure if you're shooting it in front of the MAF element to make it reliable. Again, these suggestions are to be taken "at a minimum" and you'll likely be better off having a pro tuner shop helping you.

"Nitrous is like a fine *** girl with an STD. You want to hit it but are afraid of what might happen."

 

Wow, I didn't have time early today, but missed a ton. We do have plenty more. If a guy wants to run wet hits, I really don't care. the issue for years has been the massive misinformation regarding the dry hits. Still no one can come up with dry destruction scenerios. Why? It really is so very, very simple, if something goes wrong on the dry hit we do not have puddled fuel nor atomized, or fuel vapor, in the intake and intake tract, pretty simple. Now what can go wrong with a dry hit other than a noid sticking open, and that just raises the rpm if your a before the MAF style hit and does nothing. Running the new Interface (which you guys may not realize is great for fine tuning wet hits too) it will shut you down if any anomalies are detected, so very safe. If you also understand that the nozzle wet kit was just a stop gap measure by the nitrous companies, they simply took a nozzle from a direct port wet kit and stuck it in the neck of the intake tract. Why? because they did not yet understand the workings of the MAF, and that is the only reason. the nozzle wet kits really are not a EFI designed kit but a use of technology that was developed for the carburetor platform 40 years ago. Now lets move to today, NOS was first with the 5177, getting close but not quite what we needed. Now the HSW Dry plate kit and the NX Dry MAF kit are here and the companies are understanding the new technology better, as us tuners are also. Really now that dedicated nitrous kits are being manufactured for the EFI/LSx platform we can drop the old tech, that served it's purpose of being a stop gap method. anyway, i have some more input directed at some comments in a few posts, but it's late here.


Now AlgZ06' lol.
-You could have had a prototype but you have secrets of the wet hit, I know, lol.
-The screen shots were from my personal Z06, and the entire description on setting said Interface up was my writing.
-Gamble on the motor, mark my words that will become very popular. Man you come to a gun fight and you don't even bring a knife, but you do bring constant cheap shots. That's pretty common procedure for those that have no real world experience or knowledge on the subject. Trust me, your not the first.
-Pulling timing has been done numerous ways, but not my way. Check it out, it's in my tuning site. Which one do you have on your tuning site? or on your companies site? Oh you have neither, lol.
-Nozzle tuning was and is the predecessor to the NX Dry style kit. I am the one who started it and pushed it, end of story. However, with the advent of the Interface, and/or running the NX kit, this method has been put on ice as out dated, as has the wet nozzles on the EFI/LSx platform.
-Stocklongblock record, no headers just from the factory. Bonestock longblock. We can link you to the thread where all of the turbo(s), blowers and best of all, WET Hits submitted, and guess what the dry hit ruled the roost in the 6-speeds and was number two in the autos. It's there for the entire world to see.


Now because you seem to be a mode to discredit my input and experience. Lets just say that my personal test bed has seen about 300 1/4 mile sprayed passes and all have been dry, in single stage, dual stage, single nozzle dual nozzle and quad nozzle. Something like 7-different dry kits. Out of this testing 3-kits are in production and being sold daily by a Nitrous company i have no longer any connection with. Maybe you could elaborate on your production wet kits. Now maybe you would like to see the intro threads for these kits which contain all the data and what was done and found. Nitrous moderator on 5 different sites, nitrous vendor on 3 sites, currently only one. been actively building and racing since I was born into it, my dad raced AA fuel altereds. Mechanics degree, mech engineering degree, worked as a master mechanic for over 30 years, and I could go on and on. Oh would you like to see my Dyno Day Trophy from last year where I beat out 20 some cars to take the nitrous trophy, and need I say I was running a DRY hit (it's on my web site)? Guys like you just give me an opportunity to put out more info, so bring it on. By the way, I am putting a dry tuning write up together that will make the dry experience much easier for whom ever would like to step out of the dark ages and join the computer world. That's all the babbling for now, if you even read this far, lol. OK, so I am having a little fun at your expense, sorry, but you came with the cheap shots. chow
Robert

 

Robert,now I understand why you had so many issues on "LS1TECH". Your written demeanor is one of a pompous individual with a large dose of egotism .The way you come across is enough to make me ralph...grow up Mr. engineer and express yourself in a more professional manner.

 

-new kit: yes, i talked to al offered me a new kit before you.
-screen shots: i guess thats what happens when you work for a company
-gamble on a motor: how many times have you screwed up your motor?
-pulling timing using the main spark advance table: once again done by many other people. btw, don't you get most of your info for your site from othere people? it seems on every nitrous thread you are asking people permission to post their writings/pics on your site.
-nozzle tuning: once again yours, but once again; how many times have you hurt your motor?
-stock long block record: once again hardly impressive with a 200+ shot (alomost 300). just seems to me like you didn't have any funds for additional mods so you kept uping the shot.
-interface: it will not shut down if your noid sticks open. i think you need to talk to the people you work for and get your facts straight.

im not even going to respond to your closing paragraph, because it is too easy.

 

very true. there are also many other reasons he got booted out of tech. i knew it was coming for several months but i was told not to say anything.

 

There's always the exceptions, like I said, if you guys don't like what i am saying use the ignore button. The reason you don't, and haven't, is the fact that you are actually learning something. Mr 98vettedave, my demeanor is normally not such, the only reason i am doing what I am doing was to get Mr.algZ06's goat, which I have done quite well thank you. Booted off tech, boy you must subscribe to the liars club along with your protégé over there. You pretending that you are connected, please stop. Your ammo box is empty, totally void of any actual technical information, or for that matter any information that is correct, so, first you resort to cheap shots and some distorted misinformation bordering on lying, second you get your buddy to help double team, then you start resorting to bold face lying, along with the smaller lies earlier on in the thread. However, I would love to thank you very much for giving me the opportunity to expound on the many merits of the dry hit. That's the reason I stayed in this thread as long as I have, guys like you are so very easy, and yes i will use your many rebutals to defend your questionable honor just to site more dry info for those that haven't heard the correct info yet. By the way, you will crap your pants when you realize the reason I stopped modding was to become a sponsor/vendor once again at tech, in negotiations right now, but thanks for bringing it up to let everyone know. Also, am in talks and negotiations with Corevetteforum to become a sponsor once again, after asking to be removed from the nitrous company I was working for. Are you starting to see that you being malicious in nature will come back and bite you?

Anyway for those that have not seen the mack daddy of all the wet vs dry threads, I will post the link. This one is a little old and is missing some of the newest products that have hit the market recently, but was still holding it's own quite well for the dry camp. Also, this thread talks about dry and the LSX/EFI platform only. Dry still doesn't work so well on most other makes like the Fomocos. The reason i bring this up is the fact that the dry shot can be on the loosing end of the stick when the context of the dry vs wet covers other makes and models. It truly shines in realm of late model GM products. Sometime we will do a thread on running dry, or attempting to run dry on carburetor cars of old, yes we tried it back in the day. Actually, I had a dry hit on my Iron Head V-Twin with single fire ignition, don't try that at home unless you really have a good grasp on how the single fire ignition works, hehehehehe. I now have a hy-brid wet DP kit on the old school hard tail. people ask all the time why about my Harley, the only answer I can come up with is because I can, lol. Hell I would never race that dinosaur.

Hopefully some of you have in fact got some useful information, regardless of all the nonsense mixed in between. Sorry for clowning around so much, but hey, it gets boring sometimes, lol. i think this thread has run it's useful course, and I will be un-subscribing so will not be back. As usual, my PM box is open should I be able to help in any way, just give a holla.

Mac Daddy Wet vs Dry Thread

Your Pompous and
often Egotistical
Friend,
Robert

 

half a page and you still don't address anything i have said. from what i heard on tech, is that they don't over there at all. i guess negotiating and kissing *** are the same thing to you. learn something from you? what how to blow up my car? fyi, i have never met or talked to 98dave. i think your pissed because he called it like he saw it.

 

You know what really sucks is that I posted a question as to what causes a Backfire and Grenades an Intake, what are the safer ways to run a 100 shot, and you guys turn it into a freakin Dork Swingin Contest.

I posted a question to try to get some serious input and advice from some Nitrous guys and now most of the posts are about people getting booted from LS1 Tech, who got what Prototype Kit, etc.

I understand about being passionate about what you believe in and also what formula works really well for "You", but this this thread is jacked.

I'm unsubscribing from my own thread.

 

my appologies. pm me if you need any help or have any questions. like once again sorry.