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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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I'm planning to try a launch controller for making boost on the starting line. I've been launching at 5500rpm and there's really no turbo lag, but I assume having boost already in the chambers has got to be an advantage. Anybody here using them? What kind of results have you seen?

I learned from a friend that runs a Subaru, they can flash the ECU and make a custom launch controller. It activates with rear defroster, adjusts with cruise controls, and resets using the VSS (vehicle speed sensor). How cool is that! I wish we could do that with HPTuners...
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EVO's have basically the same thing as the subaru as far as launch controll goes. Its all off the stock ECU too, no add-ons or anything like that. The whole ECU on those cars is basically open source, pretty cool stuff what you can do with them...

I got used to launching the car before launch aids were available, so I prefer my technique to the launch controller but one thing I do like about LC is the consistancy. THe only real variables in your 60' will be how much pressure you run in the tires and how fast you come off the clutch so its a lot less to think about at the line.

If you have a means to log things like TPS, boost & RPM you can 'dial it in' much better.

As far as the difference between using them and not, depends a lot on how the one you have actually works. which one do you plan on using and how are you going to set it up?
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I have a LG Launch Controller. I tried once. Forget about doing this unless your suspension is set up and you have a lot of sticky tire in the rear. I launched at a 0 MAP on my boost gauge and instantly fried my tires.

I know that in the early LT1 computers PCMFORLESS figured out a trick to enable a launch controller, don't know if he figured out the same for the later stuff though. Might want to shoot Alvin an email and inquire.
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As far as the difference between using them and not, depends a lot on how the one you have actually works. which one do you plan on using and how are you going to set it up?
I'm looking at the LPE, and probably a hand held momentary switch to activate. I'm wondering what difference in 60ft I would expect comparing a 5500 dump no boost, to 5500 on the chip and 10psi in the chambers. I'm afraid you're gonna tell me the difference will be the 2nd option includes a new rear end.

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I have a LG Launch Controller. I tried once. Forget about doing this unless your suspension is set up and you have a lot of sticky tire in the rear. I launched at a 0 MAP on my boost gauge and instantly fried my tires.
I've done nothing for suspension, I haven't had any reason to. Just a hardened shaft and DTE brace. I've been launching at 5500-6000rpm and 11psi in the ET Streets. So far this way only 1.6x 60fts, but with more practice I might get some 1.5x's. With a launch controller it might go 1.4's? If it's a losing and senseless battle maybe I should skip the idea. It's your experiences that I'm looking for. Thanks!
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If you are going to do some serious launches and really go fast a launch controller is a must.

Synergy has some nice ones and they are fully programmable as well.
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Originally Posted by BLOWNZO6
If you are going to do some serious launches and really go fast a launch controller is a must.

Synergy has some nice ones and they are fully programmable as well.
I thought they quit making those?
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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 01:06 AM
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Ok thanks Nick, I trust your advice because you've always pointed me in the right direction.
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Dont forget to ask yourself....

Do you have enough traction to need such a vicious launch strategy ?


4wd and 2wd are very different beasts when it comes to launching. And a small 2.0 4wd with limited torque, requires even more assistance if it has a lot of traction.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Dont forget to ask yourself....

Do you have enough traction to need such a vicious launch strategy ?


4wd and 2wd are very different beasts when it comes to launching. And a small 2.0 4wd with limited torque, requires even more assistance if it has a lot of traction.
Yeah, no kiddin. I drove my brother's Evo at the track once, and tried launching at 4K and the bog was ridiculous!! I think it finally took off near the 330' mark.

I'll work up to higher RPM settings. The ET Streets are good enough to dead hook a 5000 dump when the track is prepped and a proper burnout is done. I guess the only way to tell what happens with boost off the line, will be to try it.
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Originally Posted by Fastbird@FastbirdPerf.com
I thought they quit making those?
I just got two of them week before last.
They are still in production.
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Yeah, no kiddin. I drove my brother's Evo at the track once, and tried launching at 4K and the bog was ridiculous!! I think it finally took off near the 330' mark.

I'll work up to higher RPM settings. The ET Streets are good enough to dead hook a 5000 dump when the track is prepped and a proper burnout is done. I guess the only way to tell what happens with boost off the line, will be to try it.
I could leave the line in my car at 4500 RPM, standing on the two step until I saw 4-5 pounds of boost with the drag pack and 12 psi in the tires, car would run 1.57-1.60 60's all day. This was with the car spinning some off of the line. If you dead hook the car you are going to break something... I find with the stick a little wheel spin is the best way. The car came out like a monster though.
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LPE has them backordered right now. My car is 1.7x 60s right now,hoping to get it down in the 1.5xx with some boost,as well as stay consistent.Lots to do at the line with a stick,hopefully this will take pressure off. Lucky our track prep is not too agressive,car will usually spin lightly off the line at 4K launch. No broken parts yet !
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how are you turbo guys launching w/o the controller? just holding your foot @ a steady RPM and slipping the clutch won't build any boost off the line.

there is a way to build boost at the line w/o a launching aid...
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Launch with no boost,I think thats why my 60s are weak. I am going to experiment with different launch rpms once the 2 step shows up from LPE,and if it doesnt break,I will post some results. Really sucks to watch the trans brake auto cars leave the line,and have to play catch up

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+1 about the auto. If you launch at 6K rpm you will see 1.5x's, but I don't think the wheels are going to lift without some boost.

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Originally Posted by BLOWNZO6
If you are going to do some serious launches and really go fast a launch controller is a must.

Synergy has some nice ones and they are fully programmable as well.

Do you have a link?
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PM or Call Nick,he will give you all the info you can handle ! Oh,and dont forget to pay up your triple A membership cuz word has it a 5K 10psi launch will make short work of our IRS ! We will see,I hope to have mine soon !
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We still have the controllers for anyone. We actually make them to order so there is no backorder process. We can also set them up to how your car is setup as well.

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Do these come with variable timing control as well ? Thanks for getting the info out,I may have to try one of yours as well !
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Originally Posted by Synergy Motorsports
We still have the controllers for anyone. We actually make them to order so there is no backorder process. We can also set them up to how your car is setup as well.

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Thanks for the info, we should talk.

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Oh,and dont forget to pay up your triple A membership cuz word has it a 5K 10psi launch will make short work of our IRS !
I hope not , but just in case I'll bring my own AAA. Check my new rig:

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