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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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What kind of cooler is that - I have the $70 B&M supercooler. Wonder if that is half my problem?
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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i believe its fluidine but not 100% sure, need find the receipt.
Not even sure on the price, I think it might have been less but I wanted to err on the conseritive side.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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I was able to get some pics with everything off since I had to go back in there to tighten up two fittings. I can't have any drips of oil, I have an ocd about it.









airhole in the bumper support


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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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I'm wondering if the internal trans cooler in a stock rad could flow enough to handle engine oil.I know it wouldn't be the best setup but maybe better then nothing.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 01:04 AM
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alwaysinboost, thnaks for the pics.

I will not refer to your mod of the impact stracture of the car - that´s a different story (but always drive safely ).

I wonder how the cold air gets to the cooler? Isn´t the bumper right in front of it?!? Plus: how good does the hot air get out? I realize the hole in the FRONT and the open sides of the frame, but can some air exit the body somewhere?

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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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If you notice in the last pic I posted you can see the back of the oil cooler and where we cut the bumper support open to allow air to flow threw the cooler.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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Nice install! A tip on AN fittings... they're finger tight + 1/4 turn w/ the wrench. You over do them and you can distort them then they'll never seal.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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^ I think you might be onto something with the fittings. I went in there yesterday to tighten them up and I thought the leak was 100% stopped but it appears not.

As far as I can tell the fittings themselfs aren't leaking but it looks like there is oil dripping off the oil filter. I've never heard of an oil filter leaking unless you accidentially double stacked the rubber o-ring around the edge of the filter, which I didn't do.

Anyone ever heard of a mobil 1 oil filter slowly leaking oil? I think I'm going to pickup some florocent/uv dye and add to the oil to see where its coming from...
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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You sure it's not leaking from the adapter block above the oil filter? Looks like you used the ECS one... does it have a provision for the oil temp sensor? Also, those are harder to get tightened properly becuase of where they are... helps to have the exhaust out.

I'd snug up the fittings and the bolts that hold the adapter block on first.
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Originally Posted by John Dingman
Before everyone concludes that internal coolers are bad let me say they are not. They work very good and have advantages that the external do not. For one, they won't over cool in cold climates and they get the oil heated up quickly. Properly applied, I think they are the best way to go.
precisely why Id install a thermostat if I got an external cooler...
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the adapter block and lines are all still clean from when I sprayed them with brake cleaner, I don't think they're the culprit. The only thing that has any oil on it is the bottom of the oil filter itself... and it looks as though its coming from the top of the filter and slowly dripping down.
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Then I'd just go get a new filter and swap it out and see what happens.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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i did a google search and couldn't find one person who mentioned an oil filter leaking like that (unless they messed up with the rubber gasket like I mentioned above). Thats why I'm getting the UV Dye first, to be sure.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobra4B
Nice install! A tip on AN fittings... they're finger tight + 1/4 turn w/ the wrench. You over do them and you can distort them then they'll never seal.
thanks!
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 396375
I'm wondering if the internal trans cooler in a stock rad could flow enough to handle engine oil.I know it wouldn't be the best setup but maybe better then nothing.
If it doesn't flow enough, it will be a restriction, causing a pressure drop to everything behind the oil cooler. Not a good idea IMO.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysInBoost
I was able to get some pics with everything off since I had to go back in there to tighten up two fittings. I can't have any drips of oil, I have an ocd about it.









airhole in the bumper support

this set up looks great, especially if you do the mod of putting a vent where the license plate is...but by removing the energy absorber bar where the cooler is...areant you making the frame vulnerable? without the energy absorber bar...or is it just a small price to pay for the mod.
either way...I bet it really keeps the oil temps down!!
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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Just had an oil cooler installed and its working great! What I used was the following:

13 row Earl's oil cooler
LPE oil adapter
(4) 90° -10 fittings
-10 hose

Driving around in the city with stop and go traffic in 80° weather I saw the following:

178-182 coolant
198-200 oil

Hoped on the highway for only 5min and temps dropped to 196 oil instantly! Very happy with the results so far and great install from the guys at Champion motors! No compromise to the energy absorber and does not obstruct air flow to the intercooler or rad!
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 06:02 PM
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So where did you install it.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by HotRod68Camaro
So where did you install it.
Mine is installed just like AlwaysInBoost's set up, but without cutting the absorber or frame. I'm using a smaller cooler which allowed placement lower and away from the frame to circulate airflow behind the cooler.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 08:12 AM
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I thought about just mounting it where the license plate cover is like the Pfadt unit but I didn't want to run the lines that long and I also didn't want to have to keep removing the plate cover anytime I wanted to have cool oil.

I'm not worried about the frame being compromised, I only cut a 3"x6" piece out of the front bumper support, the frame is still fully intact.

Originally Posted by HRTBRCR
this set up looks great, especially if you do the mod of putting a vent where the license plate is...but by removing the energy absorber bar where the cooler is...areant you making the frame vulnerable? without the energy absorber bar...or is it just a small price to pay for the mod.
either way...I bet it really keeps the oil temps down!!

Does is work... YES.

Had a track day on Friday and got the chance to really test it out. TO say I was impressed with how cool my temps were would be an understatement. I didn't have to back off or run any cool down laps the whole day. My average top speed on the straight was 145 with a max of 149 as recorded by my datalogger.

Pushing the car for 25 minutes at a time the highest coolant temp I logged with EFILive was 234, and that was for only a very short time when I had to pull in the pits for a full course black flag w/o a cool down lap. The recovery time is pretty much non-existant. On the track my average temps were in the 220's. the highest oil temps I noticed was 238 which is well within the limits of the Mobil 1 15-50.

Previously, before ANY additional cooling mods, at a track day in July the oil would reach 290 and the coolant was at 260+ (hot enough to blow a rad hose) and that was taking it REAL easy on my first time out.

I'm starting to tame this FI heat monster... next on the schedule is an accusump!
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