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Old May 6, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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Lets see all those weak sauce 346/347ci numbers! I have seen several posts with peoples numbers and or builds, but want to see the different combos that are making some serious power while doing it on stock displacement!

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Bottom end: Stock or Forged

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642 rwhp 569 tq
Compression: 9.5
Power Adder: Vortech V2
Boost: 11psi
Fuel: walbro/boost a pump/methonal
Timing: Call CMS

Stock Block Heads/Cam longtubes. Compression lowered with 317 heads.

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Old May 6, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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496 rwhp 474 tq
Compression: stock
Power Adder: novi paxton 2000
Boost: 9-10 psi
Fuel: msd boost-a-pump
Timing: see doug at ecs
Internals: stock


Another good point is stock or forged
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Old May 6, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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I loved that Renegade F1R

Who needs cubic inches when you can make a few extra pounds of boost?

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Originally Posted by EVLZ06
Lets see all those weak sauce 346/347ci numbers! I have seen several posts with peoples numbers and or builds, but want to see the different combos that are making some serious power while doing it on stock displacement!
The specs can vary but any big power can only come from a blower able to shove big CFM - take your pick from Vortech YSI, Paxton Novi 2000, Procharger F1 - and able to make efficient boost above 12 PSI.

We tuned and built many of these 346's and many, many with output ranging from 750 -800 RWHP. And, at least as far as I am concerned, the defining factor that separated these builds into the "really a good number column" is whether or not they are ultimately capable of sustained output in hard driving conditions - i.e., continuous use and or racing.

One of the most common mistakes being made is solely relying on peak dyno numbers. Make five runs, back to back-back,etc., and then look at the peak numbers...that is of course if the heat soak, water temp, oil temp, etc will allow...
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Bottom End: Stock LS6
Compression: 10.5:1
Power Adder: A&A T-trim Kit 8-rib
Boost: 12psi
Fuel: 93 Octane + 50/50 water/meth mix
Timing: 18*

218/228 blower cam and bone stock heads. 1 7/8" kook with hi-flo cats.


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Originally Posted by c3spdrcr20
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496 rwhp 474 tq
Compression: stock
Power Adder: novi paxton 2000
Boost: 9-10 psi
Fuel: msd boost-a-pump
Timing: see doug at ecs
Internals: stock


Another good point is stock or forged
Good point fixed!
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Originally Posted by C_Williams@RPM
The specs can vary but any big power can only come from a blower able to shove big CFM - take your pick from Vortech YSI, Paxton Novi 2000, Procharger F1 - and able to make efficient boost above 12 PSI.

We tuned and built many of these 346's and many, many with output ranging from 750 -800 RWHP. And, at least as far as I am concerned, the defining factor that separated these builds into the "really a good number column" is whether or not they are ultimately capable of sustained output in hard driving conditions - i.e., continuous use and or racing.

One of the most common mistakes being made is solely relying on peak dyno numbers. Make five runs, back to back-back,etc., and then look at the peak numbers...that is of course if the heat soak, water temp, oil temp, etc will allow...

Good point on being able to be sustainable during hard driving conditions. Hitting a peak number once on the dyno is not really real world conditions, unless it is like you said, making 5 back to back runs will give you a good idea.

Ps. I stepped up to a F1 to help with efficiency
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Ps. I stepped up to a F1 to help with efficiency
F1 for efficiency? rrrright

My friend, Mr.Big in the C6 forum is making 786rwhp on a stock bottom end with a P1SC and drives the crap out of his car. It has been making over 700rwhp for the last 30kmi now.
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832RWHP/691wrtq

Compression:9.6:1
Power Adder:Novi 2000
Boost:17-18psi
Fuel:93pump+meth
Timing:16
Bottom end: Forged

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655 rwhp 569 tq
Compression: 9.5
Power Adder: Procharger p1sc1,ECS Newest Bracket
Boost: 10psi
Fuel: racetronix fuel pump/methonal
Timing: 16
stock bloock,afr heads and bolt on.11.1@135 1.98 60''
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Originally Posted by EVLZ06
Lets see all those weak sauce 346/347ci numbers! I have seen several posts with peoples numbers and or builds, but want to see the different combos that are making some serious power while doing it on stock displacement!

Include:
Power:
Compression:
Power Adder:
Boost:
Fuel:
Timing:
Bottom end: Stock or Forged
Here you go:

Power: 701 RWHP and 582 RWTQ

Compression:10.0:1

Power Adder: ProCharger P1SC-1, FLIP-DRIVE, A&A 2nd Gen Bracket, Rad Laydown, 4" CAI over Radiator, 3.2" Pulley

Boost: 14.4 PSI

Fuel: 91 Octane with Straight Methanol M1 Injection, 80lb SEIMENS Injectors, LPE Fuel Pump(Racetronix with better wiring), RACETRONIX Fuel Pump Harness, MAGNAVOLT BAP, 10.45 AFR - super safe

Timing: Ummm! I'll have to check on my HP Tuners (Sorry forgot to many changes recently)

Bottom end: Forged 347 CID with TFS 215 heads, .060 COMETIC Gaskets



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Old May 6, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BLOWNBLUEZ06
F1 for efficiency? rrrright

My friend, Mr.Big in the C6 forum is making 786rwhp on a stock bottom end with a P1SC and drives the crap out of his car. It has been making over 700rwhp for the last 30kmi now.

Haha come on don't pick on the little guys! Man you must not be at work if your on here
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Power: 708/640 @ the wheels
Compression: 10:1
Power Adder: A&A V2 S-Trim
Boost: 11.4 psi
Fuel: Shell 93/Torco/Meth
Timing: 21*
Bottom end: Stock


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Originally Posted by NemesisC5
Power: 708/640 @ the wheels
Compression: 10:1
Power Adder: A&A V2 S-Trim
Boost: 11.4 psi
Fuel: Shell 93/Torco/Meth
Timing: 21*
Bottom end: Stock


*** With 100k mile warranty
Haha lmao!
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Who cares about dyno sheets....Is this a Mustang forum?

9.80 @ 142

Novi 2000
Meth kit
Cam
Stock Heads
Stock exhaust
Stock bottom end
Stock rear
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Who cares about dyno sheets....Is this a Mustang forum?

9.80 @ 142

Novi 2000
Meth kit
Cam
Stock Heads
Stock exhaust
Stock bottom end
Stock rear
9.82 @ 139, same as above but with stock LS1 heads, and Headers! I havent been on the dyno in over 2 years! and dont have any intention on it!
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9.82 @ 139, same as above but with stock LS1 heads, and Headers! I havent been on the dyno in over 2 years! and dont have any intention on it!
Impressive numbers! This was just a comparison on peoples different combinations.....Nothing more. My car doesn't live on the dyno either and could care less besides the gains from the beginning to the end...

Why does your location say fastest supercharged stock bottom end... being what the guy before you posted?

Edit: never mind I see that he has a LS6

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346 Power: 675 rwhp
Compression: 9.8
Power Adder: S-trim
Boost: 14psi
Fuel: 93 octane + Meth + Water
Timing: 25
1/4 Mile: 9.84 @138
Stock heads, Stock exhaust
Forged Mahle pistons and Scat H-beams
Stock cranK
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