Kenne Bell/Boost ?
Racer
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From: Datil NM
If you know anyone with HP tuners, I can email you the tune to load up so you can drive it around.
OR, the KB has a cool little switch next to the blower. Its called a "Valet Switch" It allows you to lock the bypass open, allowing the car to drive around in essentially stock mode. This way you could drive to your tuner with no problems.
If you dont have a friend with HP tuners, you could always ship me your PCM. I can load a base tune for you, and send it back. I'll do this for free when you purchase your blower from us.
OR, the KB has a cool little switch next to the blower. Its called a "Valet Switch" It allows you to lock the bypass open, allowing the car to drive around in essentially stock mode. This way you could drive to your tuner with no problems.
If you dont have a friend with HP tuners, you could always ship me your PCM. I can load a base tune for you, and send it back. I'll do this for free when you purchase your blower from us.
Former Vendor
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From: Las Vegas NV
St. Jude Donor '06 & '12
Yessir.. The tuner version is the only way to go in my opinion.
The install is very very easy. Dont get me wrong, its very technical, but very straight forward. It leave NOTHING to perception or assumption. Its guides you through every step, no matter how little.
I'm trying to find my .pdf of the install manual. I've got so many darned computers, I dont remember which one I saved it to. But I think Andrew (Z06psi) also has it, but im not totally sure.
The install is very very easy. Dont get me wrong, its very technical, but very straight forward. It leave NOTHING to perception or assumption. Its guides you through every step, no matter how little.
I'm trying to find my .pdf of the install manual. I've got so many darned computers, I dont remember which one I saved it to. But I think Andrew (Z06psi) also has it, but im not totally sure.
Former Vendor
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From: Winchester CA
kenne bell kit is a breeze to install and tune really, the canned tune leaves alot to be desired way too much timing, and the injectors are scaled incorrectly. but the blower itself makes loads of power, i just always suggest methanol with these kits because the iats get pretty high pretty quick with the kb's
Racer
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From: Datil NM
kenne bell kit is a breeze to install and tune really, the canned tune leaves alot to be desired way too much timing, and the injectors are scaled incorrectly. but the blower itself makes loads of power, i just always suggest methanol with these kits because the iats get pretty high pretty quick with the kb's
Racer
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Datil NM
Yessir.. The tuner version is the only way to go in my opinion.
The install is very very easy. Dont get me wrong, its very technical, but very straight forward. It leave NOTHING to perception or assumption. Its guides you through every step, no matter how little.
I'm trying to find my .pdf of the install manual. I've got so many darned computers, I dont remember which one I saved it to. But I think Andrew (Z06psi) also has it, but im not totally sure.
The install is very very easy. Dont get me wrong, its very technical, but very straight forward. It leave NOTHING to perception or assumption. Its guides you through every step, no matter how little.
I'm trying to find my .pdf of the install manual. I've got so many darned computers, I dont remember which one I saved it to. But I think Andrew (Z06psi) also has it, but im not totally sure.
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Racer
Joined: Nov 2008
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From: Grand Rapids MI
6 or 8 rib?
If its a 6 rib, then its most likely either a 3 7/8 or a 4. If its an 8 rib, its either a 3.75 or 4". But its really important to know. 6 rib pulleys go in 1/8" incraments. 8 ribs are in 1/4". The 6 rib pulley is roughly 1-1.25psi for every 1/8th. The 8 rib pulley is roughly 2-2.5psi for every 1/4".
Let me know what you have, and i'll see if I got one.
If its a 6 rib, then its most likely either a 3 7/8 or a 4. If its an 8 rib, its either a 3.75 or 4". But its really important to know. 6 rib pulleys go in 1/8" incraments. 8 ribs are in 1/4". The 6 rib pulley is roughly 1-1.25psi for every 1/8th. The 8 rib pulley is roughly 2-2.5psi for every 1/4".
Let me know what you have, and i'll see if I got one.
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Drifting
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2. Simply put its the same reason factory cars dont run on c16 race gas. Cause not everyone has it, and not everyone wants it. From the factory those twin screw cars are not at an extreme level or on the edge tune like they are once you start throwing some real boost at them, and thats when the methanol is really useful
Racer
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From: Datil NM
1. Intercooler your going to want reguardless if you use meth or not, with fi you want the air to be as cool as it possibly can be thats the way you make the most power. When you get to hot you start to get get some rattle. Let things get really hot and you wont just rattle the motor it will blow. Thats why its key to keeping the temp under control, which meth and especially an intercooler help do.
2. Simply put its the same reason factory cars dont run on c16 race gas. Cause not everyone has it, and not everyone wants it. From the factory those twin screw cars are not at an extreme level or on the edge tune like they are once you start throwing some real boost at them, and thats when the methanol is really useful
2. Simply put its the same reason factory cars dont run on c16 race gas. Cause not everyone has it, and not everyone wants it. From the factory those twin screw cars are not at an extreme level or on the edge tune like they are once you start throwing some real boost at them, and thats when the methanol is really useful
Former Vendor
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From: Las Vegas NV
St. Jude Donor '06 & '12
Methanol will only take you so far. Its only designed to spray at certain levels, not to mention the fact that a non intercooled top mount blower is so hot its unreal. Although they can be made to work, they are severly limited. Boost creates heat. The higher the boost, the more the heat.
I cant answer why the factory doesnt use methanol. Probably because its not really necessary in stock applications, its extremely corrosive, and very expensive over the long haul.
I cant answer why the factory doesnt use methanol. Probably because its not really necessary in stock applications, its extremely corrosive, and very expensive over the long haul.
Former Vendor
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From: Las Vegas NV
St. Jude Donor '06 & '12
Honestly, given your location in the US, you've got quite a few good tuners in your area. I would NOT run any canned tune in your car. The expense of a few hundred extra dollars is the difference between driving your car and knowing your fine, versus driving your car and hoping your fine.
Dont do the install until your prepared to fairly quickly take it to a tuner to finalize it. The addition of methanol does not require a complete tune. They just need to spend about an hour or 2 to dial in the new parameters.
Doing ANY forced induction 90-95% of the way will always bite you in the but. I want to earn your business, but not at the expense of your motor. Id rather wait..
Dont do the install until your prepared to fairly quickly take it to a tuner to finalize it. The addition of methanol does not require a complete tune. They just need to spend about an hour or 2 to dial in the new parameters.
Doing ANY forced induction 90-95% of the way will always bite you in the but. I want to earn your business, but not at the expense of your motor. Id rather wait..
What I am hoping to do is install the KB myself and drive it for a while in a mild state of tune, courtesy of Jeff. Then I will add gauges and Alkycontrol. After that, I want to have it tuned. Is this a flawed plan? I just want to make sure that the base tune is safe and it won't allow the engine to be fried!
Racer
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: Datil NM
Honestly, given your location in the US, you've got quite a few good tuners in your area. I would NOT run any canned tune in your car. The expense of a few hundred extra dollars is the difference between driving your car and knowing your fine, versus driving your car and hoping your fine.
Dont do the install until your prepared to fairly quickly take it to a tuner to finalize it. The addition of methanol does not require a complete tune. They just need to spend about an hour or 2 to dial in the new parameters.
Doing ANY forced induction 90-95% of the way will always bite you in the but. I want to earn your business, but not at the expense of your motor. Id rather wait..
Dont do the install until your prepared to fairly quickly take it to a tuner to finalize it. The addition of methanol does not require a complete tune. They just need to spend about an hour or 2 to dial in the new parameters.
Doing ANY forced induction 90-95% of the way will always bite you in the but. I want to earn your business, but not at the expense of your motor. Id rather wait..
(Except for the hood). They have a few sentences on the Corvette page that says that they prefer no one mess with thier tune! Maybe yoy should ask them to change that. I'll be talking to you- I can't decide on the finish. The black tube on the left - is that chromed in the polished kit?
Former Vendor
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From: Las Vegas NV
St. Jude Donor '06 & '12
No, your right.. You can get a 6 rib in 3 3/4" Pulley. So in your case, you would want either a 3 5/8" or a 3 1/2" pulley.
I think I remember your kit. Nate wanted slightly more boost. So I would run that pulley, get and idea of what boost your running. Then decide which route to go. On a stock block, I would go NO MORE than a 3.5" pulley. Even that is pushing it.
I think I remember your kit. Nate wanted slightly more boost. So I would run that pulley, get and idea of what boost your running. Then decide which route to go. On a stock block, I would go NO MORE than a 3.5" pulley. Even that is pushing it.
It's a 6 rib. Maybe my measurment is off but I only measure it at 3.75. I haven't ever swapped it so it's the one that came with my kit. Let me know what you have. If you have a couple different sizes I'll take them. Come October I plan I finding the breaking point. That way I have no choice but to build a forged motor. LOL (Up hear in Michigan we have to put are cars up for a few months a year)
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Former Vendor
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From: Winchester CA
alkycontrol is pretty common in the vette community, i have used it and it works, but i really like Cooling Mist CMGS kits, because the controller is just a 2 1/16 boost gauge, basically the boost gauge and controller are all in one, and it will fit in your standard gauge pod, so need for an additional boost gauge, or led's indicating the meth is on, because the gauge will notify you of that, it really simplifys things to honest..... plus the prices are pretty competitive, give me a call if you more info
Drifting
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Good point! The tune should not be a deal breaker. I guess after studying the KB website, I got it in my head that the kit was able to be completed by the owner, including the tune.
(Except for the hood). They have a few sentences on the Corvette page that says that they prefer no one mess with thier tune! Maybe yoy should ask them to change that. I'll be talking to you- I can't decide on the finish. The black tube on the left - is that chromed in the polished kit?
(Except for the hood). They have a few sentences on the Corvette page that says that they prefer no one mess with thier tune! Maybe yoy should ask them to change that. I'll be talking to you- I can't decide on the finish. The black tube on the left - is that chromed in the polished kit?
Jeff give me a ring when you get this
Last edited by stainless40cal; Aug 5, 2009 at 04:28 PM.
