improvements with meth
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Racer
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improvements with meth
A lot of guys here seem to run meth, I have a non I/C maggie with 10 lbs of boost 9.5 comp / built heads and just added meth.
I was curiose to see what kind of drivability / power improvements people expereinced, and positive or negative sides to meth.
Toby
I was curiose to see what kind of drivability / power improvements people expereinced, and positive or negative sides to meth.
Toby
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Racer
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sorry I guesse I was not clear, I am not tuning for meth, and have a safe tune, just did not know if people see an improvement when it is hot, or if the improved octane / colder air intake temps have helped while not changing the tune.
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Some say no problem but why take a chance just to pick up another 30 or so HP.
Yeah... everybody says for safety but then "everybody" tunes to the max.
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My buddy has a 04 Z with a maggie and wanted to do meth. Found out exactly as stated above. There are guys running it though. Maybe a lower mix. ???
He has the intercooler on his however he can stick his finger in the reservoir with a hot engine and the water barely hot. Don't think it works very well.
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Racer
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I am going to run windshield washer fluid which seems to be approx 60 water / 40 meth depending on the version I can find.
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From what I have read the WATER is the problem not so much the alcohol.
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Lots of guys running it with no problems?
Unless you pull the blower and examine the rotors you may not know you have a problem.
I'm just suggesting you do a little research that's all
Melting Slicks
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I'm speaking from what I have seen here locally. This forum is the only place I've heard of it.
Sorry to be dick about it, but why toss out rumors about this. You've never seen a maggie damaged from meth, have you?
Melting Slicks
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Actually I had a maggie rebuilt last year and a tech up there said something about this. I had to have the rotors replaced and he said a lot of times injecting something like methanol can damage the coatings. Mine was a used system so I am not sure of what was injected but I do know he mentioned it could damage the coating.
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Believe it or not racing doesn't happen on google or the rest of the internet. This is called bench racing.
I'm speaking from what I have seen here locally. This forum is the only place I've heard of it.
Sorry to be dick about it, but why toss out rumors about this. You've never seen a maggie damaged from meth, have you?
I'm speaking from what I have seen here locally. This forum is the only place I've heard of it.
Sorry to be dick about it, but why toss out rumors about this. You've never seen a maggie damaged from meth, have you?
That's just a pretty lame thing to say.
I also know that if a donkey kicks me in the ***** it's going to hurt even though it has not happened to me and I have not seen it happen 1st hand.
My point is there are statements made by others that have 1st hand experience and if a person was so inclined they could research it and make an INFORMED decision.
Personally I read what I could find on the subject and made a decision not to run meth. Others may come to a different conclusion.
btw What blower are you running? Are you spraying meth? Heads? Cam? Nitrous?
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Melting Slicks
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Pointing out there have been reports of damage caused by meth/h2o injection is NOT bench racing has absolutely nothing to do with it.
That's just a pretty lame thing to say.
I also know that if a donkey kicks me in the ***** it's going to hurt even though it has not happened to me and I have not seen it happen 1st hand.
My point is there are statements made by others that have 1st hand experience and if a person was so inclined they could research it and make an INFORMED decision.
Personally I read what I could find on the subject and made a decision not to run meth. Others may come to a different conclusion.
btw What blower are you running? Are you spraying meth? Heads? Cam? Nitrous?
That's just a pretty lame thing to say.
I also know that if a donkey kicks me in the ***** it's going to hurt even though it has not happened to me and I have not seen it happen 1st hand.
My point is there are statements made by others that have 1st hand experience and if a person was so inclined they could research it and make an INFORMED decision.
Personally I read what I could find on the subject and made a decision not to run meth. Others may come to a different conclusion.
btw What blower are you running? Are you spraying meth? Heads? Cam? Nitrous?
I'm running an A&A kit with meth. Why does that matter?
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When I added meth I got 100rwhp and was done for the only reason of making power. 
Went from 550rwp to 650rwhp by adding a few psi boost + meth, at more boost than I can run on pump gas alone. If my meth stops it wont go lean, but will probably rattle since I run 92 pump and 13psi, on stock LS6 compression.
Without meth is easy for me to live with, simply lift throttle and chill on the boost until more meth available. Oh I use 100% M1, like Julio recommends.
Went from 550rwp to 650rwhp by adding a few psi boost + meth, at more boost than I can run on pump gas alone. If my meth stops it wont go lean, but will probably rattle since I run 92 pump and 13psi, on stock LS6 compression. Without meth is easy for me to live with, simply lift throttle and chill on the boost until more meth available. Oh I use 100% M1, like Julio recommends.
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When I added meth I got 100rwhp and was done for the only reason of making power. Went from 550rwp to 650rwhp by adding a few psi boost + meth, at more boost than I can run on pump gas alone. If my meth stops it wont go lean, but will probably rattle since I run 92 pump and 13psi, on stock LS6 compression.
Without meth is easy for me to live with, simply lift throttle and chill on the boost until more meth available. Oh I use 100% M1, like Julio recommends.
Went from 550rwp to 650rwhp by adding a few psi boost + meth, at more boost than I can run on pump gas alone. If my meth stops it wont go lean, but will probably rattle since I run 92 pump and 13psi, on stock LS6 compression. Without meth is easy for me to live with, simply lift throttle and chill on the boost until more meth available. Oh I use 100% M1, like Julio recommends.
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When I added meth I got 100rwhp and was done for the only reason of making power. Went from 550rwp to 650rwhp by adding a few psi boost + meth, at more boost than I can run on pump gas alone. If my meth stops it wont go lean, but will probably rattle since I run 92 pump and 13psi, on stock LS6 compression.
Without meth is easy for me to live with, simply lift throttle and chill on the boost until more meth available. Oh I use 100% M1, like Julio recommends.
Went from 550rwp to 650rwhp by adding a few psi boost + meth, at more boost than I can run on pump gas alone. If my meth stops it wont go lean, but will probably rattle since I run 92 pump and 13psi, on stock LS6 compression. Without meth is easy for me to live with, simply lift throttle and chill on the boost until more meth available. Oh I use 100% M1, like Julio recommends.
btw you would need to add about 5 psi boost to get 100 rwhp and if the meth stops at WOT how do you NOT get detonation?