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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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I have a 97 coupe A-4 with 29000 miles on it. 100% stock. The wife and I use it to curise and take short overnight trips.

I want to increase performance without effecting drivability. So this is my thoughts

1. replace 2.73s with 3.42s
2. vararam cai
3. headers w/x pipe
4. small t-converter
5. mail order tune (from chuck cow)

what should I be able to run in the 1/4 mile?
would any of the new camaro SS or RS be able to take me?
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Originally Posted by c-5-steve
I have a 97 coupe A-4 with 29000 miles on it. 100% stock. The wife and I use it to curise and take short overnight trips.

I want to increase performance without effecting drivability. So this is my thoughts

1. replace 2.73s with 3.42s YES
2. vararam caiYES
3. headers w/x pipeYES
4. small t-converter NOT REQUIRED
5. mail order tune (from chuck cow)NO WAY

what should I be able to run in the 1/4 mile?
would any of the new camaro SS or RS be able to take me?
Get a real tune and you'll be in the 12's
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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what should I be able to run in the 1/4 mile?
would any of the new camaro SS or RS be able to take me?
I predict 13.4 - 13.0 1/4 mile times if you get decent traction. Some will say they've gone quicker in a bone stock car, but if you expect these numbers you won't be disappointed. From what I have witnessed of the Camaro SS, it is a 13.6 -13.3 car, stock. So from a dead stop I say you could win. From a roll, you probably won't win! JMO
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Get a real tune and you'll be in the 12's
with all he is saying. But get a good tuner. You dont need any more stall unless you go with a bigger cam in the car.
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mister Peebody
I predict 13.4 - 13.0 1/4 mile times if you get decent traction. Some will say they've gone quicker in a bone stock car, but if you expect these numbers you won't be disappointed. From what I have witnessed of the Camaro SS, it is a 13.6 -13.3 car, stock. So from a dead stop I say you could win. From a roll, you probably won't win! JMO
I meant after I got the performance things done
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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I meant after I got the performance things done
I think he did as well. So much goes into getting a good time. Location, altitude and weather (DA) and probably most important- driver

That said there is a ton of benefits running a stall. If you are going to do all this trust me, there is more to come May as well do it now (I don't think it will hinder a stock cammed car, although a bigger one will affect driveability somewhat).

Ask some guys who have done it and some reputable performance shops. Good luck!
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Old Oct 13, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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Obviously you have not been to the track yet so who cares about the 1/4 time. Neither have I. 2.73 to 3.42 good choice. http://www.rpmtransmissions.com/contact.html tell rodney to buy you lunch. took one hour. intake, headers. good choice. do them yourself. nitrous, 500 dollars. excellent choice. i have 140,000 miles on mine!
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I meant after I got the performance things done
I did, indeed, mean after your performance mods! (Thanks Tail Lights)
What were you expecting to get? What were you hoping for?
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mister Peebody
I predict 13.4 - 13.0 1/4 mile times if you get decent traction. Some will say they've gone quicker in a bone stock car, but if you expect these numbers you won't be disappointed. From what I have witnessed of the Camaro SS, it is a 13.6 -13.3 car, stock. So from a dead stop I say you could win. From a roll, you probably won't win! JMO
So you think a ss would still take a c-5 with those perf. mods on the highway?
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Originally Posted by c-5-steve
So you think a ss would still take a c-5 with those perf. mods on the highway?
The ONLY new Camaro SS you re gonna have any problems outrunning, in ANY situation(with those mods) is one thats modded. Im a member on Camaro5.com and ive been lurking for awhile over there. There is ALOT of guys with 5th gen Camaros that are modding them though.
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Originally Posted by intoc6s
The ONLY new Camaro SS you re gonna have any problems outrunning, in ANY situation(with those mods) is one thats modded. Im a member on Camaro5.com and ive been lurking for awhile over there. There is ALOT of guys with 5th gen Camaros that are modding them though.
We have a new one that hangs out in the 'lot' and while its great to look at, it seems to be a bit short in the power department. (Probably too much in the weight department and the driver needs some more time behind the wheel as well)
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the vette is a good 500 pounds lighter than the camaro and you guys really think the camaro will out run him. I disagree. Do the mods and take it to the track.
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the vette is a good 500 pounds lighter than the camaro and you guys really think the camaro will out run him. I disagree.
Depends on how much its modded. I just saw a boosted one at the local track go 11.8@126.
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Depends on how much its modded. I just saw a boosted one at the local track go 11.8@126.
I was talking about a stock SS against a 97 coupe with a, A-4 and the mods mentioned above.
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Originally Posted by c-5-steve
I have a 97 coupe A-4 with 29000 miles on it. 100% stock. The wife and I use it to curise and take short overnight trips.

I want to increase performance without effecting drivability. So this is my thoughts

1. replace 2.73s with 3.42s
2. vararam cai
3. headers w/x pipe
4. small t-converter
5. mail order tune (from chuck cow)

what should I be able to run in the 1/4 mile?
would any of the new camaro SS or RS be able to take me?
3.42's = YES! (I have these alongwith my A4)

HEADERS, Hi-Flow Cats, X-pipe = Yes!

YANK 3200 Stall = Yes! (I run this on mine and it is excellent)

VARARAM - NO! Supercharger for the CAI = Yes!

Get a custom tune on a Dyno - with this many mods at once that is the best and only way to go!

You will be able to pull a new Camaro with these mods - However if the said Camaro has mods then you will be SOL!

You are here in the FI section so my suggestion is to slap on a SuperCharger with the above mods and enjoy the 600+ RWHP - hands down!

Thanks,Matt
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Originally Posted by c-5-steve
So you think a ss would still take a c-5 with those perf. mods on the highway?
Yes. The C5 "advantage" is the weight difference. That weight difference means a lot less once the cars are already rolling. Now once you hit very illegal speeds the vette will once again have the advantage due to having less drag. If you were to race from 40mph, I think, the Camaro would immediately get out ahead. The vette would start catching up at over 100mph. JMRO

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Originally Posted by c-5-steve
I have a 97 coupe A-4 with 29000 miles on it. 100% stock. The wife and I use it to curise and take short overnight trips.

I want to increase performance without effecting drivability. So this is my thoughts

1. replace 2.73s with 3.42s
2. vararam cai
3. headers w/x pipe
4. small t-converter
5. mail order tune (from chuck cow)

what should I be able to run in the 1/4 mile?
would any of the new camaro SS or RS be able to take me?
Call me and I'll make it right for you....

If you want your C5 A4 to KICK ***, give me a call.

I'll set you up with something that will fit your budget and is guaranteed to put a smile on your face!

Call me any time.
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I went 12.4's with 3:42's, headers, vararam, 3600 tc, drag radials and a dyno tune.

You should call ECS
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Originally Posted by c-5-steve
I was talking about a stock SS against a 97 coupe with a, A-4 and the mods mentioned above.
With the stock gears (2.73s), it will be a lot closer. I think the 3.42s give the C5 a BIG advantage. Couple that with a stall and a Vararam (mine netted me some huge gains) and a good launch (better tires than stock) and a stock SS doesn't stand a chance.
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