C5 Forced Induction/Nitrous C5 Corvette Turbochargers, Superchargers, Centrifugal, Twin Screw & Roots Blowers, Twin Turbo Kits, Intercoolers, Wet & Dry Nitrous Injection, Meth
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

ECS SC600 DYNO Graph looking for advice

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 07:06 PM
  #1  
felo357's Avatar
felo357
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 835
Likes: 0
From: fayetteville NC
Default ECS SC600 DYNO Graph looking for advice


My set up is the ECS SC600
extra mods are textrilla clutch
Julio meth kit from ECS
Synapse BOV
MSD coils
MSD Boost a pump
i don't know about AF ratios so i was looking for advice is my car looks like is lean. looking at the AF graph or do u need more info the car feels good i just want to see if what i got is good
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 07:55 PM
  #2  
easyvette's Avatar
easyvette
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 901
Likes: 1
From: Oxford PA
Default

For being bone stock engine wise I think that pretty dam good. Now if you had headers and a cam that would be different.
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 08:48 PM
  #3  
chriswtx's Avatar
chriswtx
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,970
Likes: 20
From: San Marcos Texas
Default

Doesn't look lean to me. Looks fine. Maybe a little belt slip above 5700rpm though..
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 08:57 PM
  #4  
felo357's Avatar
felo357
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 835
Likes: 0
From: fayetteville NC
Default

i forgot that part yes i do have lg street and no cats with borla cat back.
so my fuel is good Yeahy
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 09:00 PM
  #5  
felo357's Avatar
felo357
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 835
Likes: 0
From: fayetteville NC
Default

well the cam is my next MOD since i got the 343 code the same day i re tune
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 09:25 PM
  #6  
chriswtx's Avatar
chriswtx
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,970
Likes: 20
From: San Marcos Texas
Default

Originally Posted by felo357
so my fuel is good Yeahy
if anything thing, the 514hp run has a few spots that are very rich, could still use a little tweaking to straighten out the AFRs a little. But rich is safe on a stock bottom end..
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2009 | 09:26 PM
  #7  
chriswtx's Avatar
chriswtx
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,970
Likes: 20
From: San Marcos Texas
Default

Originally Posted by felo357
well the cam is my next MOD since i got the 343 code the same day i re tune
Yeah sounds like loose cam bolts..
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 07:14 AM
  #8  
ONE BMF's Avatar
ONE BMF
Drifting
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,686
Likes: 20
From: Florida, Hell's Doorstep
Default

Originally Posted by chriswtx
Doesn't look lean to me. Looks fine. Maybe a little belt slip above 5700rpm though..
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

2027 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 First Look: Everything You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

5 Best & 5 Worst Corvette Daily Drivers

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

The Headlights of Every Corvette Generation Explained

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-8

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 07:26 AM
  #9  
madmatt9471's Avatar
madmatt9471
Team Owner
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 21,473
Likes: 356
From: Palmdale, Ca----- 2009 Cyber Gray 4LT A6 F55 452 RWHP 422 RWTQ- RIP 1998 C5 734 RWHP & 585 RWTQ-----
Default

YEs! Your AFR is real good!

It is "LEAN" when it is in the mid to high 12's and beyond!

Being where you're at around low 11's AFR is excellent and safe

Thanks,Matt
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 08:16 AM
  #10  
BLOWNBLUEZ06's Avatar
BLOWNBLUEZ06
Tech Contributor
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 10,924
Likes: 78
From: Forney Texas
Default

Originally Posted by chriswtx
Doesn't look lean to me. Looks fine. Maybe a little belt slip above 5700rpm though..


When using the dyno wideband, there is a time delay for the exhaust to actually hit the sensor. You have to keep that in mind when tuning on the dyno or reading the sheet. Looks good other than the probably belt slip.
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 08:28 AM
  #11  
felo357's Avatar
felo357
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 835
Likes: 0
From: fayetteville NC
Default

Well i really appreciate all the coments. Now second question since i got the 343 code i am going to be installing a ECS cam with com cams 921 springs harden push rods and doubel roller timing chain. How i go about starting the car afther the install is it safe to turn it on and drive to the tuner or not i never have install a cam but i got all the tools inc the cam deggre tol from com cam. Help on this one
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 10:19 AM
  #12  
Dave concrete's Avatar
Dave concrete
Race Director
15 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 18,053
Likes: 53
From: long Island NY
Default

I don't know what your hp goals are but I would save the cam swap cost fix the cam bolts and enjoy the car and its new found power and next mod would be forged. Dollar for dollar its a better deal because most likely its inevitable you will have to do it anyway at some point even more so if you do the cam swap you will be at the motors peak of being reliable.
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 11:31 AM
  #13  
felo357's Avatar
felo357
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 835
Likes: 0
From: fayetteville NC
Default

Originally Posted by Dave concrete
I don't know what your hp goals are but I would save the cam swap cost fix the cam bolts and enjoy the car and its new found power and next mod would be forged. Dollar for dollar its a better deal because most likely its inevitable you will have to do it anyway at some point even more so if you do the cam swap you will be at the motors peak of being reliable.
So is not worth the risk pushing my bottom whit the cam up grade. Ok but i am adding the springs the doubel timing chain and harden push rod for extra ins will i see extra hp will i need a re tune
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 11:53 AM
  #14  
Mike69@ECS's Avatar
0Mike69@ECS
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Apr 1999
Posts: 7,607
Likes: 1
From: ECS Sales & Service Advisor
Cruise-In III Veteran
Cruise-In V Veteran
Default

Unless the belt was left very loose, you most likely had a degree or two of knock, over a slipping belt. Belt slip usually drops harder once it starts, knock retard just drops the graph in a step, which is more of what yours looks like to me.

If your going to do a cam at the same time as the cam bolts, I would strongly recommend alky injection at the same time. Otherwise I would just wait until you do a fully forged engine.


(btw this is Doug @ ECS on Mikes lap top)
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 12:43 PM
  #15  
felo357's Avatar
felo357
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 835
Likes: 0
From: fayetteville NC
Default

Originally Posted by Mike69
Unless the belt was left very loose, you most likely had a degree or two of knock, over a slipping belt. Belt slip usually drops harder once it starts, knock retard just drops the graph in a step, which is more of what yours looks like to me.

If your going to do a cam at the same time as the cam bolts, I would strongly recommend alky injection at the same time. Otherwise I would just wait until you do a fully forged engine.


(btw this is Doug @ ECS on Mikes lap top)
This set up was installed at ur shop and i do have the meth kit the reason why it was retune at this shop was because it keep trowing me codes on bank 1&2 too rich so i had the vech retune at C.A.M i call chris and tolld him about my problem but unfortunally the shop u guys work with her in NC was too far for me so i dicide to pay out of pocket and re tune. I love the work u guys did but i dont like what i found in my dyno sheet bc it was very diferent from what u guys send me. Pleas no body pm me or ask bc i dont want to start nothing i like ecs and all of their products and i can call them any time and chris will talk to me I guess it was the weather
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 06:49 PM
  #16  
Dave concrete's Avatar
Dave concrete
Race Director
15 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 18,053
Likes: 53
From: long Island NY
Default

Originally Posted by felo357
So is not worth the risk pushing my bottom whit the cam up grade. Ok but i am adding the springs the doubel timing chain and harden push rod for extra ins will i see extra hp will i need a re tune
Let me give you a honest answer. I have a 04Z with a novi and the same goodies you have on a stock long block which all was installed by ECS and at 8psi 581rwhp 488rwtq. I don't drive this car much so my stock block is fine. I called Chris ECS and told him I want to drop my car off for a cam upgrade and he said not to waste my money and wait for a forged motor because how much more will we get out of a cast piston before kaboom.
Reply
Old Oct 16, 2009 | 11:45 PM
  #17  
felo357's Avatar
felo357
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 835
Likes: 0
From: fayetteville NC
Default

Originally Posted by Dave concrete
Let me give you a honest answer. I have a 04Z with a novi and the same goodies you have on a stock long block which all was installed by ECS and at 8psi 581rwhp 488rwtq. I don't drive this car much so my stock block is fine. I called Chris ECS and told him I want to drop my car off for a cam upgrade and he said not to waste my money and wait for a forged motor because how much more will we get out of a cast piston before kaboom.
I really apreciate ur honest opinioni will trully callit quits before kaboon so the finall question i am going to tight down the cam bolts and ad the com springs 921 with harden push rods do i need re tune and will i see hp increase with tune or with out the tune
Reply
Old Oct 17, 2009 | 10:34 AM
  #18  
Dave concrete's Avatar
Dave concrete
Race Director
15 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 18,053
Likes: 53
From: long Island NY
Default

Originally Posted by felo357
I really apreciate ur honest opinioni will trully callit quits before kaboon so the finall question i am going to tight down the cam bolts and ad the com springs 921 with harden push rods do i need re tune and will i see hp increase with tune or with out the tune
I couldn't tell you so what I would do is give a call to ECS Monday morning and ask them you won't get a more accurate answer anywere else
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To ECS SC600 DYNO Graph looking for advice





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:33 PM.

story-0
2027 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 First Look: Everything You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Is the 2027 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 the best Silverado yet?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-16 08:01:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
5 Best & 5 Worst Corvette Daily Drivers

Slideshow: 5 best and 5 worst Corvette daily drivers

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 10:32:13


VIEW MORE
story-2
The Headlights of Every Corvette Generation Explained

Slideshow: The headlights of every Corvette generation explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 10:17:14


VIEW MORE
story-3
5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 most overrated Corvette track packages ever.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:46:45


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

Slideshow: Every 2027 Corvette engine explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:16:31


VIEW MORE
story-5
Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

Slideshow: A Jaguar designer's personal project imagines what a modern front-engined Corvette might look like if Chevrolet revisited the golden age of the Stingray.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-08 19:53:43


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE