Intercooler
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Drifting
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Intercooler
I currently have the procharger dual intercooler setup but I'm not a big fan of all the piping. I like the a&a and ecs designs (single intercooler) but I don't like the price. What are my options? Are there any decent and more reasonably prices single coolers out there? Im going to be running just 5-7 psi.
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I currently have the procharger dual intercooler setup but I'm not a big fan of all the piping. I like the a&a and ecs designs (single intercooler) but I don't like the price. What are my options? Are there any decent and more reasonably prices single coolers out there? Im going to be running just 5-7 psi.
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For 5-7psi though, I don't think you'll have to many issues with the twins. If it was 15 - 17psi you were after, then I'd say you'd have a larger concern.
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Drifting
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Could always luck out and find someone who is upgrading from the old-style A&A single to the new one. From time to time you see the kits surface on these boards.
For 5-7psi though, I don't think you'll have to many issues with the twins. If it was 15 - 17psi you were after, then I'd say you'd have a larger concern.
For 5-7psi though, I don't think you'll have to many issues with the twins. If it was 15 - 17psi you were after, then I'd say you'd have a larger concern.
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I currently have the procharger dual intercooler setup but I'm not a big fan of all the piping. I like the a&a and ecs designs (single intercooler) but I don't like the price. What are my options? Are there any decent and more reasonably prices single coolers out there? Im going to be running just 5-7 psi.
Thanks
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Last edited by racerrob333; May 16, 2011 at 06:13 PM.
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Anybody else upgrading? Ideally I'd like piping as well, I already have the a&a sheetmetal radiator piece as well as the a&a aluminum polished upper elbo.
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You won't need some of the pieces, like the BOV. I can take some money off for those things.
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The only downside to that is that the A&A ducting is smaller then the ECS ducting, so you will be bottle necking your ducting from the intercooler assuming you buy RacerRobs. I guess for 5-6 lbs it probably will not make much of a difference though. Feel free to give us a call if you need any of the adjacent parts to the intercooler, good luck with it.
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im actually in the same boat dude, going back and fourth weather to get a fmic or stick with my twins..my cars currently at 706 rwhp at 11lbs. im uping the boost, a few real good shops say its not guna be a restriction then others do. also bob from epp actually likes the split set up. He kept it on a road race z06 for more air flow to the radiator and that car was over 760rwhp on a mustang dyno and had no prob with ait's. . also meth helps
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pm answered my piping would not work for u Im running a super victor intake but for the intercooler 700 dollars maybe has about 20 passes on it
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im actually in the same boat dude, going back and fourth weather to get a fmic or stick with my twins..my cars currently at 706 rwhp at 11lbs. im uping the boost, a few real good shops say its not guna be a restriction then others do. also bob from epp actually likes the split set up. He kept it on a road race z06 for more air flow to the radiator and that car was over 760rwhp on a mustang dyno and had no prob with ait's. . also meth helps
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how many pounds of boost did you find it to start being a restriction? also what head unit did you have and were you running meth? . . .f2 is a bad ***** funka must be a sick ride. . . mines a forged 347 d1 and my dads is an iron block 408 f1r at 26 lbs of boost, scary scary street car
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how many pounds of boost did you find it to start being a restriction? also what head unit did you have and were you running meth? . . .f2 is a bad ***** funka must be a sick ride. . . mines a forged 347 d1 and my dads is an iron block 408 f1r at 26 lbs of boost, scary scary street car
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I based my purchase on personel research. You should do alot of
research and OUR opinion's won't count.
A well made and a intercooler that has gone thru alot of R&D
is important to me. Frankly you will have alot of late nights
decideing what is right for you.
Good luck and let us know what you chose and why.
research and OUR opinion's won't count.
A well made and a intercooler that has gone thru alot of R&D
is important to me. Frankly you will have alot of late nights
decideing what is right for you.
Good luck and let us know what you chose and why.
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The only downside to that is that the A&A ducting is smaller then the ECS ducting, so you will be bottle necking your ducting from the intercooler assuming you buy RacerRobs. I guess for 5-6 lbs it probably will not make much of a difference though. Feel free to give us a call if you need any of the adjacent parts to the intercooler, good luck with it.
The 3" tubing carries heated (and therefore expanded) air to the intercooler. The air coming out of the intercooler is cooler (and therefore denser) which would actually allow more air to flow through the same size tube. While the difference would be minimal, it still favors airflow on the back side of the intercooler.
Only if you ran 3 1/2" into the intercooler and 3" out, would the ducting to the throttle body be a restriction.
I know you think I must be wrong, so explain it to me.
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Explain to me why, if we run 3" piping from the blower to the intercooler, 3 1/2" tubing from the intercooler to the throttle body would become a "bottleneck".
The 3" tubing carries heated (and therefore expanded) air to the intercooler. The air coming out of the intercooler is cooler (and therefore denser) which would actually allow more air to flow through the same size tube. While the difference would be minimal, it still favors airflow on the back side of the intercooler.
Only if you ran 3 1/2" into the intercooler and 3" out, would the ducting to the throttle body be a restriction.
I know you think I must be wrong, so explain it to me.
The 3" tubing carries heated (and therefore expanded) air to the intercooler. The air coming out of the intercooler is cooler (and therefore denser) which would actually allow more air to flow through the same size tube. While the difference would be minimal, it still favors airflow on the back side of the intercooler.
Only if you ran 3 1/2" into the intercooler and 3" out, would the ducting to the throttle body be a restriction.
I know you think I must be wrong, so explain it to me.
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With the boost you are running I would not worry about changing unless you want to up it to 10lbs or more, just install some spal fans behind them for a cooler charge, I got a set
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Explain to me why, if we run 3" piping from the blower to the intercooler, 3 1/2" tubing from the intercooler to the throttle body would become a "bottleneck".
The 3" tubing carries heated (and therefore expanded) air to the intercooler. The air coming out of the intercooler is cooler (and therefore denser) which would actually allow more air to flow through the same size tube. While the difference would be minimal, it still favors airflow on the back side of the intercooler.
Only if you ran 3 1/2" into the intercooler and 3" out, would the ducting to the throttle body be a restriction.
I know you think I must be wrong, so explain it to me.
The 3" tubing carries heated (and therefore expanded) air to the intercooler. The air coming out of the intercooler is cooler (and therefore denser) which would actually allow more air to flow through the same size tube. While the difference would be minimal, it still favors airflow on the back side of the intercooler.
Only if you ran 3 1/2" into the intercooler and 3" out, would the ducting to the throttle body be a restriction.
I know you think I must be wrong, so explain it to me.
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The only real proof would be to measure the pressure at the intercooler exit and then the throttle body entrance. Then reverse the gauges and measure again. I'll bet there isn't any negligible difference. Either way, I made over 1000RWHP with that bottle neck. 
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Just a follow up. I've decided to ditch my twin intercooler setup in favor of the A&A single itercooler setup. As an engineer I appreciate simple, effective, and elegant designs. Oddly enough I judge a solution based on the gag factor. The twin procharger twin intercooler setup is simple less effective with A LOT more overhead than the A&A setup, and quite simply all that tubing makes me gag as it is unnecessary for my goals.