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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 05:24 PM
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Okay, I've been collecting parts and saving money for over two years now, and I'm finally got enough stuff to start the final rundown to make sure I'm not overlooking something.

Right now, my current setup is a twin intercooled PSC-1 @ 6psi with kooks headers on my '01 Z06, pretty much about it honestly. I make 460rwhp/434rwtq. I'm building a new motor that can withstand abuse because a blown up LS6 is not worth anything, lol. My goal is 800rhwp with my new build, just because I like HP, not because I drag race. As a matter of fact, I rarely do unless someone pulls up beside of me at the right time at the right place.

Anyways, here is what I'm thinking, hitting the highlights...... am I overlooking anything? And, is this power goal reasonable?

LS6 Block
Callies 383 stroker crank
Callies H-beam rods
Wiesco -32cc dished pistons with steel rings
A&A Stage 4 blower cam with LS7 lifters/hardened pushrods
Ported 241 heads (bench flowed 300cfm @ .600 lift) with patriot springs milled to 57cc chambers
8-Rib Setup
METH Injection
Racetronix harness and 255lph intake primary pump
Seconary Aeromotive A-1000 pump connected to hobs switch
60lb injectors (80lb possibly??)
PSC-1 head unit rebuilt to a DSC-1 head unit pullied down to run about 16-18 PSI boost
Dewitts cut-down radiator with dual fans
Procharger FMIC with 4" piping and over the radiator intake

What kind of power could a man get out of this setup if he went with something along those lines?
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 05:31 PM
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id either go 402 or stick with a 347
if 347 i would use my stock crank and 243 heads.
everything else looks alright and youll be close to 800 maybe a tad short but just add a lil more boost
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 06:37 PM
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I agree. Forge your ls6. It can take the abuse. With meth, use dual nozzle
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 06:51 PM
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-32cc pistons will have your compression around 8.75:1
A better choice would be something around -20cc to bring your compression up...I would target 9.5-9.8
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 07:04 PM
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Alkycontrol is what meth system I'm going to use.
With the heads I'm figuring right around 9.25:1 but I could be mistaken. Just rough figuring.
They are some of the toughest wiesco pistons made, plan on throwing a lot of boost to it and I want it to last for years to come. Already have the longblock. Got a good deal on one that I couldn't pass up.
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Shad
Okay, I've been collecting parts and saving money for over two years now, and I'm finally got enough stuff to start the final rundown to make sure I'm not overlooking something.

Right now, my current setup is a twin intercooled PSC-1 @ 6psi with kooks headers on my '01 Z06, pretty much about it honestly. I make 460rwhp/434rwtq. I'm building a new motor that can withstand abuse because a blown up LS6 is not worth anything, lol. My goal is 800rhwp with my new build, just because I like HP, not because I drag race. As a matter of fact, I rarely do unless someone pulls up beside of me at the right time at the right place.

Anyways, here is what I'm thinking, hitting the highlights...... am I overlooking anything? And, is this power goal reasonable?

LS6 Block
Callies 383 stroker crank
Callies H-beam rods
Wiesco -32cc dished pistons with steel rings
A&A Stage 4 blower cam with LS7 lifters/hardened pushrods
Ported 241 heads (bench flowed 300cfm @ .600 lift) with patriot springs milled to 57cc chambers
8-Rib Setup
METH Injection
Racetronix harness and 255lph intake primary pump
Seconary Aeromotive A-1000 pump connected to hobs switch
60lb injectors (80lb possibly??)
PSC-1 head unit rebuilt to a DSC-1 head unit pullied down to run about 16-18 PSI boost
Dewitts cut-down radiator with dual fans
Procharger FMIC with 4" piping and over the radiator intake

What kind of power could a man get out of this setup if he went with something along those lines?
Good luck man post some pic,s when you are done...
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 08:43 PM
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We run into situations like in your now fairly regularly and we generally try and give one bit of advice. Before you spend $1,000 on trading up to a D1, I would suggest selling the entire ATI kit complete, and purchase a kit ready for 800RWHP.
The twin intercoolers and small ducting is very restrictive, and the belt set up of the older ATI kits is somewhat lacking, but good for a stock car with a P1.
Oviously I'm biased to our Novi 2000 kit with an eight rib upgrade for a build of that level, but regardless of which kit you go with, I would not fight with the one you presently have.

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Well, one thing I found out that the twin intercoolers were very restrictive. That's why I went ahead and got a FMIC with 4" ducting to put behind the D1.
I've already upgraded the older procharger bracket with larger idler pullies but unless I can sell my p1 kit complete very quickly my only choice is a d1 hooked to my new intercooler. I'm trying to have the car down as little as possible. Hmmmmm...... How much is your 800rwhp kit?
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Old Sep 13, 2011 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Shad
Well, one thing I found out that the twin intercoolers were very restrictive. That's why I went ahead and got a FMIC with 4" ducting to put behind the D1.
I've already upgraded the older procharger bracket with larger idler pullies but unless I can sell my p1 kit complete very quickly my only choice is a d1 hooked to my new intercooler. I'm trying to have the car down as little as possible. Hmmmmm...... How much is your 800rwhp kit?
your kit will be fine I ran the same procharger for years made great power 750rwhp on stock heads go for it you have been saving $ long enough
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
We run into situations like in your now fairly regularly and we generally try and give one bit of advice. Before you spend $1,000 on trading up to a D1, I would suggest selling the entire ATI kit complete, and purchase a kit ready for 800RWHP.
The twin intercoolers and small ducting is very restrictive, and the belt set up of the older ATI kits is somewhat lacking, but good for a stock car with a P1.
Oviously I'm biased to our Novi 2000 kit with an eight rib upgrade for a build of that level, but regardless of which kit you go with, I would not fight with the one you presently have.

If you wish to discuss this in length feel free to call our shop to discuss. 609-752-03


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pay attention he said he said has this inter cooler
(Procharger FMIC with 4" piping and over the radiator intake)
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 12:56 AM
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Build it. You'll reach your goal or be so close it won't matter.
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Originally Posted by a/c man
pay attention he said he said has this inter cooler
(Procharger FMIC with 4" piping and over the radiator intake)
Actually A/C man, you should pay attention. He said that is what he is thinking...
Read the post before starting trouble...

Right now, my current setup is a twin intercooled PSC-1 @ 6psi with kooks headers on my '01 Z06, pretty much about it honestly. I make 460rwhp/434rwtq. I'm building a new motor that can withstand abuse because a blown up LS6 is not worth anything, lol. My goal is 800rhwp with my new build, just because I like HP, not because I drag race. As a matter of fact, I rarely do unless someone pulls up beside of me at the right time at the right place.

Anyways, here is what I'm thinking, hitting the highlights...... am I overlooking anything? And, is this power goal reasonable?

LS6 Block
Callies 383 stroker crank
Callies H-beam rods
Wiesco -32cc dished pistons with steel rings
A&A Stage 4 blower cam with LS7 lifters/hardened pushrods
Ported 241 heads (bench flowed 300cfm @ .600 lift) with patriot springs milled to 57cc chambers
8-Rib Setup
METH Injection
Racetronix harness and 255lph intake primary pump
Seconary Aeromotive A-1000 pump connected to hobs switch
60lb injectors (80lb possibly??)
PSC-1 head unit rebuilt to a DSC-1 head unit pullied down to run about 16-18 PSI boost
Dewitts cut-down radiator with dual fans
Procharger FMIC with 4" piping and over the radiator intake
What kind of power could a man get out of this setup if he went with something along those lines?
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 08:44 AM
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A/C man still isnt paying attention.. (kidding with you)



OP, I only suggested that because you generally spend more in the long run if you piece it together. Best of luck wth it.
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
A/C man still isnt paying attention.. (kidding with you)



OP, I only suggested that because you generally spend more in the long run if you piece it together. Best of luck wth it.
With piece it together something alway dont work then a new part for what didnt work with it.
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Originally Posted by robert miller
With piece it together something alway dont work then a new part for what didnt work with it.

The other problem is that whatever you remove individually is basically worthless. I must have six pairs of twin intercoolers here, I cant give them away, but as a complete kit it's worth 3-3,500?
So add 1k for the D1 upgrade and your up to 4-4,500, then add a big FMIC and your at the cost of a complete new A&A kit, add the breather, rad cradle, catch can etc,etc and your at the cost of our kit except everything is new and fits perfectly.

It's just a better/easier option with a warranty in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by johnnyg
Actually A/C man, you should pay attention. He said that is what he is thinking...
Read the post before starting trouble...

Right now, my current setup is a twin intercooled PSC-1 @ 6psi with kooks headers on my '01 Z06, pretty much about it honestly. I make 460rwhp/434rwtq. I'm building a new motor that can withstand abuse because a blown up LS6 is not worth anything, lol. My goal is 800rhwp with my new build, just because I like HP, not because I drag race. As a matter of fact, I rarely do unless someone pulls up beside of me at the right time at the right place.

Anyways, here is what I'm thinking, hitting the highlights...... am I overlooking anything? And, is this power goal reasonable?

LS6 Block
Callies 383 stroker crank
Callies H-beam rods
Wiesco -32cc dished pistons with steel rings
A&A Stage 4 blower cam with LS7 lifters/hardened pushrods
Ported 241 heads (bench flowed 300cfm @ .600 lift) with patriot springs milled to 57cc chambers
8-Rib Setup
METH Injection
Racetronix harness and 255lph intake primary pump
Seconary Aeromotive A-1000 pump connected to hobs switch
60lb injectors (80lb possibly??)
PSC-1 head unit rebuilt to a DSC-1 head unit pullied down to run about 16-18 PSI boost
Dewitts cut-down radiator with dual fans
Procharger FMIC with 4" piping and over the radiator intake
What kind of power could a man get out of this setup if he went with something along those lines?
Actually, if you look it post #8, he states that he already picked up a FMIC and 4" piping.

All y'all need to pay attention...
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Well, I found a smoking deal on a FMIC with all the piping and I picked it up over a year ago. Just picked up the long block a couple months ago. Probably would have been better to just save up money for two years and buy everything at once instead of buying used parts when try pop up for sale. Once I sale my stock ls6 and my leftover parts I will have half the cost of a new build in it. Less than $5k total turn key should be possible. Still have to decide on injectors.
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While I do have well over 800 RWHP, and have done it by piecing stuff together, if I could have done it right from the gate with an ECS kit, it would have been much cheaper and easier.

But, to be honest, it's too early for me to post on this thread since I'm sure I'm paying good enough attention...
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Originally Posted by Shad
Well, I found a smoking deal on a FMIC with all the piping and I picked it up over a year ago. Just picked up the long block a couple months ago. Probably would have been better to just save up money for two years and buy everything at once instead of buying used parts when try pop up for sale. Once I sale my stock ls6 and my leftover parts I will have half the cost of a new build in it. Less than $5k total turn key should be possible. Still have to decide on injectors.
the siemins 83#s are a no brainer...
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too bad you bought stuff, I have everything you need coming off of my car.
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