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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by denscor
The motor in it now is a TSP built LS7. Our signals got crossed and it came back with 11.4 compression, so we used a .120. Now it has no quench ect.The runs like a lazy motor.
Which heads did you have?

What was your compression with the old setup?

A 232 duration cam isn't too big for a 434, the lift is manageable with good springs like a PAC 1521. People forget a .623" lift LS1/2/3/6 cam becomes .660" lift with LS7 rockers. You really need light valves though, something under 90-95 grams would be great. If you order some of these big heads you're talking about, spend the extra money for the titanium intake valves.
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley C5
Which heads did you have?

What was your compression with the old setup?

A 232 duration cam isn't too big for a 434, the lift is manageable with good springs like a PAC 1521. People forget a .623" lift LS1/2/3/6 cam becomes .660" lift with LS7 rockers. You really need light valves though, something under 90-95 grams would be great. If you order some of these big heads you're talking about, spend the extra money for the titanium intake valves.
I have the first PRC 265cc heads.The compression on the old setup was 11.4 but the Dale talked me into using a .120 head gasket to lower compression. So its around 8.9 now. I going to the titanium valves also. I have the Manley NEXTEK VALVE SPRINGS for .700 lift kit. I bought the kit from Ragin Racin.
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 06:54 PM
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I'd bump the compression back up with LS9 gaskets and run E85
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
I'd bump the compression back up with LS9 gaskets and run E85
I would love to go to E85 but were I live there is not a E85 station for 120 miles.
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by denscor
I have the first PRC 265cc heads.The compression on the old setup was 11.4 but the Dale talked me into using a .120 head gasket to lower compression. So its around 8.9 now. I going to the titanium valves also. I have the Manley NEXTEK VALVE SPRINGS for .700 lift kit. I bought the kit from Ragin Racin.
You need to get that compression back up to around 9.5 :1 especially with the pully your running.
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Originally Posted by denscor
I have the first PRC 265cc heads.The compression on the old setup was 11.4 but the Dale talked me into using a .120 head gasket to lower compression. So its around 8.9 now. I going to the titanium valves also. I have the Manley NEXTEK VALVE SPRINGS for .700 lift kit. I bought the kit from Ragin Racin.
U need to get that compression bal up to around 9.5 :1 especially with the pully your running if u want to have a chance at the power level u want to achieve. Unless you want to run 25 lbs or more. Boost to get there. Not to mention there are other benefits to having a little more compression.
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Old Nov 5, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by denscor
I have the first PRC 265cc heads.The compression on the old setup was 11.4 but the Dale talked me into using a .120 head gasket to lower compression. So its around 8.9 now. I going to the titanium valves also. I have the Manley NEXTEK VALVE SPRINGS for .700 lift kit. I bought the kit from Ragin Racin.
You can't lower the compression on a 427 from 11.4 down to 8.9 with a .120" head gasket, assuming you started with something as thin as a .040"

A .080" increase in gasket thickness lowers the compression 1.8 points, so 11.4 would become 9.6

If you were using a more common gasket thickness of around .050" then the .070" change to get to .120" will only drop the compression down to 9.76

Here is the compression calculator that I use.
http://www.csgnetwork.com/compcalc.html

If the engine is "lazy" now, I don't think a bigger head is going to help that.

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Agreed with Brian.

If your already at 9.6 to 1 as Brian suggest you are with those gaskets then that's where u need to keep it. Also as Brian stated if the engine was lazy before huge heads arent going to help. My question is why was the engine lazy to begin with at that compression ratio? Did u have a tiny or stock cam? Was there an issue with there being too much engine and not enough cylinder head? That engine at the compression ratio u stated shouldn't have been lazy. One of the first things I think of after reading here is that the static compression ratio wasn't where u though it was.


Originally Posted by Brian Tooley C5
You can't lower the compression on a 427 from 11.4 down to 8.9 with a .120" head gasket, assuming you started with something as thin as a .040"

A .080" increase in gasket thickness lowers the compression 1.8 points, so 11.4 would become 9.6

If you were using a more common gasket thickness of around .050" then the .070" change to get to .120" will only drop the compression down to 9.76

Here is the compression calculator that I use.
http://www.csgnetwork.com/compcalc.html

If the engine is "lazy" now, I don't think a bigger head is going to help that.
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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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Of all the heads made for supercharged C5's, which ones run the fastest down the track? Just curious...
I think this is the fastest supercharged C5 running 160 mph in the 1/4 mile with a real street car.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-f...n-runs-8s.html

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