It's BOOST time !!
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Le Mans Master
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From: Helotes TEXAS
It's BOOST time !!
Okay all you boost guru's I have a couple of questions for you.
I'm a few days away from having some extra cash.
AND it's time for my FRC to get BOOSTED !
I can get either an A&A setup or a Procharger setup for about the same price, give or take $50 bucks.
My questions to you guys are:
Would either superchargers be a good choice ?
What's the cost of a turbo setup ?
How does a maggie stack up to a Novi type setup ?
Should consider a set of modded 317 heads (bigger valves, ported) vs a set of modded 243's (bigger valves, ported) ?
I'm a few days away from having some extra cash.
AND it's time for my FRC to get BOOSTED !
I can get either an A&A setup or a Procharger setup for about the same price, give or take $50 bucks.
My questions to you guys are:
Would either superchargers be a good choice ?
What's the cost of a turbo setup ?
How does a maggie stack up to a Novi type setup ?
Should consider a set of modded 317 heads (bigger valves, ported) vs a set of modded 243's (bigger valves, ported) ?
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From: cookeville tennessee
Okay all you boost guru's I have a couple of questions for you.
I'm a few days away from having some extra cash.
AND it's time for my FRC to get BOOSTED !
I can get either an A&A setup or a Procharger setup for about the same price, give or take $50 bucks.
My questions to you guys are:
Would either superchargers be a good choice ?
What's the cost of a turbo setup ?
How does a maggie stack up to a Novi type setup ?
Should consider a set of modded 317 heads (bigger valves, ported) vs a set of modded 243's (bigger valves, ported) ?
I'm a few days away from having some extra cash.
AND it's time for my FRC to get BOOSTED !
I can get either an A&A setup or a Procharger setup for about the same price, give or take $50 bucks.
My questions to you guys are:
Would either superchargers be a good choice ?
What's the cost of a turbo setup ?
How does a maggie stack up to a Novi type setup ?
Should consider a set of modded 317 heads (bigger valves, ported) vs a set of modded 243's (bigger valves, ported) ?
TURBO you better have deep pockets for the kit then also for install and problems after that. You will not go wrong with the heads and bigger valves and NEW SPRINGS and harden push rods.. And put meth on her for ins here. Robert
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Le Mans Master
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From: Helotes TEXAS
A/A are ECS you will not go wrong with one are the other here. Look at the guys close to you in TX and see what they are running . That can help you big time on down time and all of that. TURBO you better have deep pockets for the kit then also for install and problems after that. You will not go wrong with the heads and bigger valves and NEW SPRINGS and harden push rods.. And put meth on her for ins here. Robert
TURBO you better have deep pockets for the kit then also for install and problems after that. You will not go wrong with the heads and bigger valves and NEW SPRINGS and harden push rods.. And put meth on her for ins here. Robert
As for the heads... 317's or 243's ??
Looks like turbo's are out of the picture.
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So what are your goals for the build? What is you HP goal. Are ya looking for the TQ to come lower or a more progressive ramp up? How much boost are ya good putting on your engine? All this matters and helps to give ya feedback that makes sense. Otherwise your gonna get alot of opinion that doesnt fit your needs.
I will say this you are not going to go wrong about either A&A or ECS. We all have our favorite and most are pationate about why. Find a shop ya are comfortable working with and knows how to tune, its critical.
Darion
I will say this you are not going to go wrong about either A&A or ECS. We all have our favorite and most are pationate about why. Find a shop ya are comfortable working with and knows how to tune, its critical.
Darion
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From: cookeville tennessee
So what are your goals for the build? What is you HP goal. Are ya looking for the TQ to come lower or a more progressive ramp up? How much boost are ya good putting on your engine? All this matters and helps to give ya feedback that makes sense. Otherwise your gonna get alot of opinion that doesnt fit your needs.
I will say this you are not going to go wrong about either A&A or ECS. We all have our favorite and most are pationate about why. Find a shop ya are comfortable working with and knows how to tune, its critical.
Darion
I will say this you are not going to go wrong about either A&A or ECS. We all have our favorite and most are pationate about why. Find a shop ya are comfortable working with and knows how to tune, its critical.
Darion
Plus get with a good shop are call comp cams in memphis tn are the co where you will be getting your cam and tell them what the set up is and what are looking to get from the car. Will tell you this get the power in the cam to come in more in mid range and top end. Robert
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Ya beat me to it, but, I looked at your profile and see ya have a Whiplash cam your gonna put in? If thats the case get ahold of EG and see what his thought are about the FI direction ya would want to go with that cam. From what I have read about him he will point ya in the right direction, great rep. If your going to go through the trouble of changing the cam ya mine as well do the heads up to get the most out of the setup, imo. I caught one of your other posts in another thread and it seems your looking for around 650rwhp, heads will help ya get there with a bit less boost, less restriction in less restriction out with headers. As for which of those heads I've seen good results from both, I just had my 241's worked over and that works for me.
BTW, keep a new clutch in mind if ya haven't already changed yours out and possibly meth.
Your off to a good start asking your questions here just need a bit more info on what ya like and I'm sure you'll get lots of feedback.
Later,
Darion
BTW, keep a new clutch in mind if ya haven't already changed yours out and possibly meth.
Your off to a good start asking your questions here just need a bit more info on what ya like and I'm sure you'll get lots of feedback.
Later,
Darion
Last edited by Darion; Jun 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM.
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You wont go wrong with either A&A or ECS kits.
we have installed MANY A&A kits of the years and there all so nice. ECS is the same was. great kits and great guys to work with. The turbo route is alot more costly so depending on how much you want to spend will decide if you go turbo. A set of heads is always a plus! Make sure you go with DVS on there. BUT stock heads will do fine if you need to spend money elsewhere.
If we can help you out let us know.
we have installed MANY A&A kits of the years and there all so nice. ECS is the same was. great kits and great guys to work with. The turbo route is alot more costly so depending on how much you want to spend will decide if you go turbo. A set of heads is always a plus! Make sure you go with DVS on there. BUT stock heads will do fine if you need to spend money elsewhere.
If we can help you out let us know.
Last edited by East Tx Muscle Cars; Jun 13, 2012 at 07:35 PM.
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Two totally different animals. The Maggie requires a different hood and suffers from the same heating issues as all positive displacement blowers. Very limited growth potential with the Maggie.
The Novi can make big power and you can keep the stock hood.
You can change the valve springs if needed. I don't see much wisdom in spending $2-3K on heads until you're making huge power. There are numerous people in the 9s with stock heads.
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Le Mans Master
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From: Helotes TEXAS
So far I've been seeing and reading a lot of great things about the Novi system. As for the heads I guess can spend a few hundred on a good set of 243's or 799's for now.
You guys have been really helpful.
Please keep you comments and adive coming !
You guys have been really helpful.
Please keep you comments and adive coming !
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Le Mans Master
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From: Helotes TEXAS
You wont go wrong with either A&A or ECS kits.
we have installed MANY A&A kits of the years and there all so nice. ECS is the same was. great kits and great guys to work with. The turbo route is alot more costly so depending on how much you want to spend will decide if you go turbo.
if we can help you out let us know.
we have installed MANY A&A kits of the years and there all so nice. ECS is the same was. great kits and great guys to work with. The turbo route is alot more costly so depending on how much you want to spend will decide if you go turbo.
if we can help you out let us know.
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Le Mans Master
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From: Helotes TEXAS
Would a set of 243's breath better than the 853's that are on the car now ??
Okay, now I'm going have to start a new thread asking for the differences, pro's / con's between Vortech S/C's and the Novi S/C.
The reason is, I found a used very low mile A&A Vortech V2 S-trim setup with a meth kit for about $3K.
I NEED to know the differences.
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LOL... funny guy.
Would a set of 243's breath better than the 853's that are on the car now ??
Okay, now I'm going have to start a new thread asking for the differences, pro's / con's between Vortech S/C's and the Novi S/C.
The reason is, I found a used very low mile A&A Vortech V2 S-trim setup with a meth kit for about $3K.
I NEED to know the differences.
Would a set of 243's breath better than the 853's that are on the car now ??
Okay, now I'm going have to start a new thread asking for the differences, pro's / con's between Vortech S/C's and the Novi S/C.
The reason is, I found a used very low mile A&A Vortech V2 S-trim setup with a meth kit for about $3K.
I NEED to know the differences.
Last edited by robert miller; Jun 13, 2012 at 05:51 PM.
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Le Mans Master
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From: Helotes TEXAS
Buddy if you are only looking at a v2 s trim. Do like the clown has said for now but get a good set of spring for what you have on the car and also the good push rods. and get the 3,k unit if all is there.. THE CLOWN WILL NOT TELL YOU WRONG UNLESS HE IS LINED UP IN THE LANE BESIDE YOU GOING DOWN THE 1/4 MILE TRACK..Robert
I've already got a complete set of Patriot valve springs and some Comp Cams chrome moly pushrods.
AND an EG Whiplash cam.