Injector settings
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Injector settings
So I'm swapping out my stock injectors (01 LS6) to some 72lb ones. I'm a bit unsure about what the flow rate should be. I'm using HPT. Heres what another person had for their 72lbers. Look right?
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What do you mean by boost ref? Regulator? If so, then no. I'm in the process of prepping it for twin turbos. Just swapped over to 2 bar SD tune. I'll be dropping in the 72lb (750cc) injectors tomorrow. Everything else on the fuel system is currently stock for now. Once the twins go on, I'll add a BAP and retune again. But I'd like to get the new injectors going while its still naturally aspirated. What values should be in that table for 72lb (750cc) injectors? I tried a spread sheet calculator but I must have been entering something wrong. I tried with the stock injector size and it was way off of what the stock tune values showed. The table I posted above is what another member had who was using the same injectors.
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You need some information like are they 72lbs at 3 bar or 4 bar? A good injector company like Injector Dynamics gives you all the proper data which is a great help in tuning.
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They are RC Engenering injectors. 750cc (71lb according to their website) at the usual 3 bar rating (43.5psi). I know we run higher pressure though.
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I do not have a graph in front of me, but to be properly scaled they will be somewhere in the low 80's. 82-84 for instance.
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Also I feel the boost referencing has to be taken into account or the injector goes in the opposite direction, not larger. For instance, 58lbs static fuel rail pressure with 10lbs of boost is actually producing 48lbs of positive fuel pressure.
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It’s a simple Bernoulli scaling equation that most people use, good starting point but purists like DSteck will say injector test data at correct pressure trumps it. Depending on what calculator you have the ^0.5 is square root (solves the same).
Go to any online injector site calculator and it will generate same results, 3 bar to 4 bar.
Go to any online injector site calculator and it will generate same results, 3 bar to 4 bar.
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Can you explain how you came up with 96? I have been on the same page with Skunkworks on this equation, just curious.
Also I feel the boost referencing has to be taken into account or the injector goes in the opposite direction, not larger. For instance, 58lbs static fuel rail pressure with 10lbs of boost is actually producing 48lbs of positive fuel pressure.
Also I feel the boost referencing has to be taken into account or the injector goes in the opposite direction, not larger. For instance, 58lbs static fuel rail pressure with 10lbs of boost is actually producing 48lbs of positive fuel pressure.
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Pick a unit and stick with it (metric or standard) equation doesn't care.
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I agree with Skunkworks the injectors are 82 lbs @ 4 bar.
The injector sizing chart that you have posted from my old files are set for a non boost referenced system as I mentioned when I emailed the file to you. My system does not accomodate positive pressure. In order to compensate for boost the numbers quickly change from 10 KPA manifold vacuum to the 3 bar 72 lb injector that they are at 15lbs of boost. The additional fuel required is added in by way of power enrichment. Boost referenced is a much better way to go as long as you have enough fuel at the higher presssure required when under boost.
The injector sizing chart that you have posted from my old files are set for a non boost referenced system as I mentioned when I emailed the file to you. My system does not accomodate positive pressure. In order to compensate for boost the numbers quickly change from 10 KPA manifold vacuum to the 3 bar 72 lb injector that they are at 15lbs of boost. The additional fuel required is added in by way of power enrichment. Boost referenced is a much better way to go as long as you have enough fuel at the higher presssure required when under boost.
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this is what confuses me. My Hptuners scanner tells me on my last dyno run I made 185 kpa which is about 12 psi on my gauge. Wouldnt 200 kpa = 14.5 (which is one atmosphere)?