Starter problems on the dyno
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From: Fabens TX
Starter problems on the dyno
I took the car in to the dyno today to get it tuned(It's getting tuned on a dynojet). Well, all of a sudden the car don't start . We turn the key but nothing happens . I'm thinking vats. Apparently it's the starter ,( I personally don't believe it is). I was at 400rwhp when the starter problems began. We stopped the session and will continue on Monday. One of the guys started to worry me as he told me not to expect anything close to 500rwhp
. They also mentioned something about my map sensor not being a 3 bar and not knowing how much boost I was making. I am at 4500ft elevation but not even close to 500rwhp? Should I be disappointed with anything less than 500hp or even close to it?
. They also mentioned something about my map sensor not being a 3 bar and not knowing how much boost I was making. I am at 4500ft elevation but not even close to 500rwhp? Should I be disappointed with anything less than 500hp or even close to it?
Last edited by big454blockchevy; Nov 2, 2012 at 08:56 AM.
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I took the car in to the dyno today to get it tuned(It's getting tuned on a dynojet). Well, all of a sudden the car don't start . We turn the key but nothing happens . I'm thinking vats. Apparently it's the starter ,( I personally don't believe it is). I was at 400rwhp when the starter problems began. We stopped the session and will continue on Monday. One of the guys started to worry me as he told me not to expect anything close to 500rwhp . They also mentioned something about my map sensor not being a 3 bar and not knowing how much boost I was making. I am at 4500ft elevation but not even close to 500rwhp? Should I be disappointed with anything less than 500hp or even close to it?
. They also mentioned something about my map sensor not being a 3 bar and not knowing how much boost I was making. I am at 4500ft elevation but not even close to 500rwhp? Should I be disappointed with anything less than 500hp or even close to it?
More info on your set up please is your car a a4 r stick. Robert
ISIS SUCKS FAT CHOAD
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You don't need a 3 bar MAP 2 bar will be more then enough for your stock engine and setup.
To put it in perspective I'm running a 2 bar MAP which will read upto 210 KPH I believe and I'm at the edge of it with 15ish psi boost.
There's a sticky in the FI section that I created with boost vs kPa conversion.
So in a nutshell if your running 16 psi or less and have a 2bar MAP your good.
To put it in perspective I'm running a 2 bar MAP which will read upto 210 KPH I believe and I'm at the edge of it with 15ish psi boost.
There's a sticky in the FI section that I created with boost vs kPa conversion.
So in a nutshell if your running 16 psi or less and have a 2bar MAP your good.
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My neighbor's bone stock 04 Coupe/auto with 56k miles had the starter crap out on it as well.. I went over everything trying to diagnose it thinking it had to be anything BUT the starter... Well he towed it to a dealer and they changed the starter and $375 later he was rolling again..
I was shocked the starter went bad with that low mileage and never been touched before....
I believe it now though.
I was shocked the starter went bad with that low mileage and never been touched before....
I believe it now though.
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From: Fabens TX
You don't need a 3 bar MAP 2 bar will be more then enough for your stock engine and setup.
To put it in perspective I'm running a 2 bar MAP which will read upto 210 KPH I believe and I'm at the edge of it with 15ish psi boost.
There's a sticky in the FI section that I created with boost vs kPa conversion.
So in a nutshell if your running 16 psi or less and have a 2bar MAP your good.
To put it in perspective I'm running a 2 bar MAP which will read upto 210 KPH I believe and I'm at the edge of it with 15ish psi boost.
There's a sticky in the FI section that I created with boost vs kPa conversion.
So in a nutshell if your running 16 psi or less and have a 2bar MAP your good.
. The car feels real strong 3k rpms and up . I will get my dyno graphs by email tomorrow and post them up.
Last edited by big454blockchevy; Nov 2, 2012 at 09:47 PM.
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Well, he brought up the 3 bar map topic again. He stated I got 458rwhp .I was not there for the final pulls due to being at work and him telling me that we would continue Monday. He could not tell me how much boost I was making. I've got a mechanical boost on there right now and will go out for a spin in a few . The car feels real strong 3k rpms and up . I will get my dyno graphs by email tomorrow and post them up.
. The car feels real strong 3k rpms and up . I will get my dyno graphs by email tomorrow and post them up.See if you can get him to email you the data logs he got while tuning along with a configuration file that he's using.
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My neighbor's bone stock 04 Coupe/auto with 56k miles had the starter crap out on it as well.. I went over everything trying to diagnose it thinking it had to be anything BUT the starter... Well he towed it to a dealer and they changed the starter and $375 later he was rolling again..
I was shocked the starter went bad with that low mileage and never been touched before....
I believe it now though.
I was shocked the starter went bad with that low mileage and never been touched before....
I believe it now though.
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From: Fabens TX
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Rich was doing the tuning at speed factory. Through all the tune I was thinking of what you told me , as far not tuning the car in el paso by the locals. I just got to excited
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I gotta be straight with ya. Your tuner saying hey get a 3 bar MAP and also saying that he don't know how much boost your making would make me pick a different tuner. I'm not even a tuner and I know enough on how to calculate boost via a MAP sensor. I also know that unless your making over 15-16 psi a 3bar isn't needed. When you step up to a 3 bar MAP, you loose a bit of resolution. Obviously you have no real choice when making over 210 kPa. Which is about 16 psi boost.
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I gotta be straight with ya. Your tuner saying hey get a 3 bar MAP and also saying that he don't know how much boost your making would make me pick a different tuner. I'm not even a tuner and I know enough on how to calculate boost via a MAP sensor. I also know that unless your making over 15-16 psi a 3bar isn't needed. When you step up to a 3 bar MAP, you loose a bit of resolution. Obviously you have no real choice when making over 210 kPa. Which is about 16 psi boost.
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I agree on choosing another tuner , unfortunately there are none in my area. I will need to travel for the next tune. I am left wondering if my tune is locked with Hp tuners "license" having been purchased and if that is going to present a problem when I try to get it retuned.
Do yourself a favor and pm blownbluezo6.
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Brotha your in Texas. Not only was it the only state to be its own country but you have some of the greates LSX tuners in the world who reside in the great state of Texas. Only two states I can think of maybe 3 where there is more then just a few fast vettes. Texas, California and the other state which is NJ.
Do yourself a favor and pm blownbluezo6.
Do yourself a favor and pm blownbluezo6.
