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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 02:48 AM
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I'm planning on installing a Alky Control setup this spring. I'd like some pictures and info on your setups. What you got? Where do you buy your meth? And what do you run for a mix? 50/50? 100%?

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This how ECS recommends where to place the nozzles and AIT sensor on a SD tune. The holes were pre drilled by them. Hope this helps you out man!



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This how ECS recommends where to place the nozzles and AIT sensor on a SD tune. The holes were pre drilled by them. Hope this helps you out man!
Thanks. Hey, do you happen to have pics of your pump and tank setup? Where did you locate everything?
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Thanks. Hey, do you happen to have pics of your pump and tank setup? Where did you locate everything?
I don't have pics of that but the instructions will explain all that! The pump goes on the frame behind the front left tire and you just tap into your washer tank! You can always call Alkey Control and talk to Julio, he can explain and walk you through the process!

Also keep in mind that you will need a good tuner and Doug (ECS) is coming to Straightline in New Lenox IL. to tune in April! I would take advantage of this opportunity and have him tune your car!
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Good move Jesse! Get those headers too!
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Originally Posted by Johnny08
Why are meth nozzles positioned so close to IAT-sensor? That will definitely screw-up IATs when meth is applied... I would use more space between nozzles and sensor.

My Intake pipe is from ECS and they pre drilled the holes for the meth and AIT sensor. Apparently they feel this is the proper location and do this for all of there customers, so I'm not going to argue on this matter!

You can always call ECS and tell them that they are wrong? Good luck with that!
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Good move Jesse! Get those headers too!
Thanks Ron! Find me some free headers and I will!
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The idea, I'm sure, is that if the meth fails then the IAT sensor will reflect it immediately. They then tune the car to pull timing if the IAT temp sensor reads a certain temp while in boost. It's a clever way to introduce a failsafe system. Another alternative would be to install a flow meter on the methanol system and figure out a way to make that pull timing or pull vacuum from the BOV. Some turbo cars are setup to open wastegates on the loss of meth.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny08
Why are meth nozzles positioned so close to IAT-sensor? That will definitely screw-up IATs when meth is applied... I would use more space between nozzles and sensor.
That's what you want....you want the temp to drop when the meth hits.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 09:21 AM
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My nozzle is in the same position, installed the kit myself up to the point where ECS drilled for and installed the nozzle.
Pretty easy install, just a few wires to run and connect, pump gets mounted behind the drivers front wheel.

Installed Alcycontrol on both of my Buicks , a MUST have with those cars.

Bought 10 gallons while at ECS and probably have 8 gallons left.

1 issue I have is I still haven't replaced the windshield wiper tank\pump, being a daily driver I still need this to work as driving around with Windex and paper towles is getting old anybody have pics of a replacement ww tank setup?


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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny08
I know that, but putting them that close to each other will make the IATs read lower than what they actually are... The meth spray must have so time to mix into the air. Or does ECS do this on purpose to make more distinct meth failure protection?
Most PCMs are set up so nothing happens when the IATs are low, only high, so going down isn't as crucial as going up.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 05:31 PM
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In my opinion, you are seeing "real IAT". The methanol is atomized in to the air charge. It is not sprayed directly onto the IAT sensor. Not that it matters anyway since you tune for methanol. Even If the IAT is artificiallly skewed, you tune based off of those skewed numbers. Ex: If the IAT sensor is showing 20 degree IAT due to methanol, but you still register KR, then you would respond to it by adjusting fuel, methanol, and/or timing just as you would if the IAT was reading 180 degrees. I could be wrong, but based off of my very limited understanding of HPTuners and tuning in general, I don't think I am that far off base. As long as the IAT are consistently skewed then you are fine for tuning. JMHO
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Does anybody use the AIS kit ?

http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.c...c37/index.html
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Alky duel kit i bought from Arun. Not meth dependent tune. run - 20 washer fluid and 2 bottles of HEAT.check out my build thread for some install pics



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i put alot of though into my nozzle placement b4 i drilled my holes. I placed then far enough away that the IAT sensor would pick up an accurate reading. Thats just my thoughts..
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Originally Posted by Zeus-of-Boost
i put alot of though into my nozzle placement b4 i drilled my holes. I placed then far enough away that the IAT sensor would pick up an accurate reading. Thats just my thoughts..
How far away was that?
I was told to keep a minimum 6" seperation between the nozzle and the IAT sensor. The MAFless tube from A&A is only about 15", if I recall correctly.
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It would be nice to have some better looking fitting other that the Home Depot stuff it comes with. JMO
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Originally Posted by junk c5
I have there trunk mount kit in one of my shop cars. The setup came with plastic feed line and it melted. Caused the car to detonate and blew a head gasket. We ended up getting a stainless feed line to replace the cheap plastic line so figure that into your decision.
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Originally Posted by Mister Peebody
How far away was that?
I was told to keep a minimum 6" seperation between the nozzle and the IAT sensor. The MAFless tube from A&A is only about 15", if I recall correctly.
my picture on my set up is a few post up. I har the A&a mafless tube as well.
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