C5 Forced Induction/Nitrous C5 Corvette Turbochargers, Superchargers, Centrifugal, Twin Screw & Roots Blowers, Twin Turbo Kits, Intercoolers, Wet & Dry Nitrous Injection, Meth
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

IFR table

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 22, 2015 | 01:56 PM
  #1  
Blow Torch's Avatar
Blow Torch
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,011
Likes: 9
From: Dublin GA
Default IFR table

For anyone running 80lb injectors; would you mind looking at your IFR table and give me the 1st (0) and last (80) numbers?
I am trying to make sure my table is set up correctly. Seems high
Thanks
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2015 | 03:41 PM
  #2  
jimbos'ss's Avatar
jimbos'ss
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 771
Likes: 40
From: killeen TX
Default

89.2333-97.75019
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2015 | 04:06 PM
  #3  
Blow Torch's Avatar
Blow Torch
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,011
Likes: 9
From: Dublin GA
Default

Thanks Jimbo

I'm

92.4 - 101.2

Looking at some of the smaller injectors as reference, (42,60's) it looked a little high.

Last edited by Blow Torch; Oct 22, 2015 at 06:29 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 22, 2015 | 07:58 PM
  #4  
jimbos'ss's Avatar
jimbos'ss
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 771
Likes: 40
From: killeen TX
Default

No problem. Yeah that's a bit high.
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2015 | 03:18 PM
  #5  
Milan's Avatar
Milan
Safety Car
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 4,797
Likes: 52
From: Boise
Default

Without knowing if the tune is scaled and what fuel pressure people are running it's kind of irrelevant.
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2015 | 07:40 PM
  #6  
Blow Torch's Avatar
Blow Torch
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,011
Likes: 9
From: Dublin GA
Default

True; But looking for a pattern and a few quick calculations based on the injector size they are running and it "seemed" mine were et up a little high
Just having some AFR issues and trying to look at everything.
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2015 | 10:10 PM
  #7  
Shoaf85's Avatar
Shoaf85
Drifting
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,261
Likes: 26
From: Concord NC
Default

Are your injectors rated at 80lbs @43.5 psi and I'm assuming you are not running a boost referenced fuel psi regulator?

Last edited by Shoaf85; Oct 23, 2015 at 10:44 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 02:34 AM
  #8  
MVP'S ZO6's Avatar
MVP'S ZO6
ISIS SUCKS FAT CHOAD
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,124
Likes: 53
From: Earth, United States
Default

Originally Posted by Shoaf85
Are your injectors rated at 80lbs @43.5 psi and I'm assuming you are not running a boost referenced fuel psi regulator?
^^^^^ this! Because an injector rated at 80 Lbs @ 43.5 psi is going to flow more @ the LS1 base fuel pressure of 58 PSI. Looks like your IFR numbers you have in your table are at 58 psi. (Base LS1 fuel pressure)

Check this out..
Attached Images  

Last edited by MVP'S ZO6; Oct 24, 2015 at 02:42 AM.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-4

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-5

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 02:55 AM
  #9  
CamminC5's Avatar
CamminC5
Melting Slicks
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,590
Likes: 48
From: Nathalie VA
St. Jude Donor '15-'16-'17-'18
Default

You can chase you tail all day on this table. Being off a little isn't a big deal.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 07:57 AM
  #10  
Blow Torch's Avatar
Blow Torch
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,011
Likes: 9
From: Dublin GA
Default

Yes guys, thanks
They are rated at 80 at 43.5 and I'm running 58psi. I calculated them with the hp tuner tool and got the 92 at zero. It seemed high per others but close) The spread was also got my attention. Per my tuning manual, I take the spread from high to low of my original table (2.79) and add that to the 92.x and put in the 80 area and interpolate between. My 80 table was originally 104, for a difference of 12.xx), thus my concern
I am having an issue with the AFR going back and forth (slowly) from about 11.xx to 18 at steady throttle. It appears my O2s (brand new) are not oscillating fast enough, but instead, SLOWLY go from high to low causing the rich lean condition.
Always something
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 08:00 AM
  #11  
Blow Torch's Avatar
Blow Torch
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,011
Likes: 9
From: Dublin GA
Default

Heres a short scan if it matters. (Im looking at the AFR on the in car wideband)
Attached Files
File Type: hpl
02scan.hpl (59.2 KB, 76 views)
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 03:51 PM
  #12  
CamminC5's Avatar
CamminC5
Melting Slicks
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,590
Likes: 48
From: Nathalie VA
St. Jude Donor '15-'16-'17-'18
Default

I remember reading something a while back about a guy who replaced his O2's with some brand from the parts store and something similar happening. Don't quote me on this, but maybe someone will chime in that has more knowledge than me.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 04:27 PM
  #13  
Blow Torch's Avatar
Blow Torch
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,011
Likes: 9
From: Dublin GA
Default

That would bite but might explain this PITB issue. It just doesn't make since. The O2s are just slowing going up for a while and down for a while
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2015 | 07:40 PM
  #14  
MVP'S ZO6's Avatar
MVP'S ZO6
ISIS SUCKS FAT CHOAD
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,124
Likes: 53
From: Earth, United States
Default

Originally Posted by CamminC5
I remember reading something a while back about a guy who replaced his O2's with some brand from the parts store and something similar happening. Don't quote me on this, but maybe someone will chime in that has more knowledge than me.
Not all replacement 02 sensors are created =. That's for sure.
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 01:45 PM
  #15  
Blow Torch's Avatar
Blow Torch
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,011
Likes: 9
From: Dublin GA
Default

Is there anything else that would cause them to cycle so slowly?
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 04:40 PM
  #16  
CamminC5's Avatar
CamminC5
Melting Slicks
Supporting Lifetime Gold
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,590
Likes: 48
From: Nathalie VA
St. Jude Donor '15-'16-'17-'18
Default

Were they plugged back in right? Any chance the harnesses going to car were crossed?
Reply
Old Oct 25, 2015 | 07:43 PM
  #17  
jimbos'ss's Avatar
jimbos'ss
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 771
Likes: 40
From: killeen TX
Default

If you command OL what's your error% looking like?
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To IFR table

Old Oct 26, 2015 | 07:31 AM
  #18  
Blow Torch's Avatar
Blow Torch
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,011
Likes: 9
From: Dublin GA
Default

Originally Posted by CamminC5
Were they plugged back in right? Any chance the harnesses going to car were crossed?
No chance of that. I have the harnesses zip ties right above the header with no room for them to reach the other

If you command OL what's your error% looking like?

I have not tried commanding an AFR. I didn't have the wideband hooked up to HP. I was noticing the big AFR swing so I hooked up HP to take a look at the STFTs and noticed my O2s were barely moving. I purchased the new ones and then noticed that they were completely opposite and just swinging high and holding, then swinging low and holding. Figured I needed to figure out that issue or it would never run correctly
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2015 | 10:41 PM
  #19  
jimbos'ss's Avatar
jimbos'ss
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 771
Likes: 40
From: killeen TX
Default

Originally Posted by Blow Torch
No chance of that. I have the harnesses zip ties right above the header with no room for them to reach the other

If you command OL what's your error% looking like?

I have not tried commanding an AFR. I didn't have the wideband hooked up to HP. I was noticing the big AFR swing so I hooked up HP to take a look at the STFTs and noticed my O2s were barely moving. I purchased the new ones and then noticed that they were completely opposite and just swinging high and holding, then swinging low and holding. Figured I needed to figure out that issue or it would never run correctly
I highly recommend getting your wideband plugged into the EIO and setting up an AFR error % histo. When I say commanding OL. That means forcing it to stay in open loop mode and taking the narrowbands out of the equation. If you're chasing your tail in OL mode then it's something in the calibration. I already have a few ideas what I think it is, but good logs are needed to verify.
Reply
Old Oct 27, 2015 | 11:24 AM
  #20  
Blow Torch's Avatar
Blow Torch
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,011
Likes: 9
From: Dublin GA
Default

Originally Posted by jimbos'ss
I highly recommend getting your wideband plugged into the EIO and setting up an AFR error % histo. When I say commanding OL. That means forcing it to stay in open loop mode and taking the narrowbands out of the equation. If you're chasing your tail in OL mode then it's something in the calibration. I already have a few ideas what I think it is, but good logs are needed to verify.
Thanks Jimbo

I will be back Friday, and Ill try to get a chance to work on it and get a log.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:58 AM.

story-0
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-2
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE