Intercooler for the Mag!!!???
Burning Brakes
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From: greensboro NC
Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (Devil Dog)
After my conversation with the guys at Magna yesterday about a boost loss with my new headers I was informed that testing is going very well with the intercooled version. They are looking at a Oct. release date??? I was given some pretty crazy numbers on the HP and was told that they would be backing the unit down to stay within the "safe range" for the stock LS1 engine. Which brought up my next issue, why not offer something for us guys who would like to forge the bottom and push the envelope? Magna seems to be concerned about the guys who are going to launch an engine and blame them for a faulty blower setup. I for one would really like to be able to forge and turn it up!! Anyone else feel this way??? Buy the way just put a set of LG's new longtubes on. Looking good sounding loud :cool: :smash:
Burning Brakes
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From: Clarksburg MD
Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (BigLew)
So what was magna's response to your loss in boost after headers?
After my conversation with the guys at Magna yesterday about a boost loss with my new headers I was informed that testing is going very well with the intercooled version. They are looking at a Oct. release date??? I was given some pretty crazy numbers on the HP and was told that they would be backing the unit down to stay within the "safe range" for the stock LS1 engine. Which brought up my next issue, why not offer something for us guys who would like to forge the bottom and push the envelope? Magna seems to be concerned about the guys who are going to launch an engine and blame them for a faulty blower setup. I for one would really like to be able to forge and turn it up!! Anyone else feel this way??? Buy the way just put a set of LG's new longtubes on. Looking good sounding loud :cool: :smash:
Burning Brakes
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From: greensboro NC
Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (gmf)
Said it was to be expected because of the lack of backpressure at low rpm's. He seemed to think thatI would make most of it up in the midrange. We will see. I'm putting on the dyno in a couple of weeks :smash:
Melting Slicks
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Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (BigLew)
That would be enough to make me consider the mag on my stroker I wonder if it could push enough air to make it worth while, with the regular mag and the smallest pulley we could make fit the shaft we had a hard time maintaining 4 lbs on a 415 iron block with the big heads etc, with the intercooler I may be able to get 5# or so to the 436 which should be good for an easy extra 100 ponies--I'm already spending more money, hell it never ends--I may have to quit the forum or I will be paying off credit cards when i'm 96 :lol: :lol:
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From: Renaissance Festival TAZ the Wolfdog (R.I.P.)
Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (99C5ragtop)
I'll stay where I'm at; more "power" (pun intended) to the rest of you guys who need/want more. My only caveat, beware of the drivetrain's weak links; as you fix one the next weakest will break, and on and on and on. Good luck. :cheers:
Melting Slicks
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Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (NEPTUNEBILL)
The Magnuson has limited airflow potential, make sure you contact Magnuson about how much HP their system can support before attempting to install one on a stroker set-up.
It would be nice if someone made a Whipple (lysholm screw) blower for the C5.
It would be nice if someone made a Whipple (lysholm screw) blower for the C5.
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Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (DevilDog II)
Just $6,500 for the intercooler? I think I'll try to find a little cheaper way to get more horsepower out of mine.
If you can get a whipple It might be worth it.
[Modified by 93Polo, 4:59 PM 8/19/2003]
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From: Colesville MD
Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (93Polo)
Just $6,500 for the intercooler? I think I'll try to find a little cheaper way to get more horsepower out of mine.
:iagree: $6,500 plus a ~$3g shortblock to handle more boost and you're looking at the same ball park as an all bore motor.
If you can get a whipple It might be worth it.
[Modified by 93Polo, 4:59 PM 8/19/2003]
:iagree: $6,500 plus a ~$3g shortblock to handle more boost and you're looking at the same ball park as an all bore motor.
If you can get a whipple It might be worth it.
[Modified by 93Polo, 4:59 PM 8/19/2003]
Melting Slicks
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Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (Steve02C5)
I agree with the drive train issue, I have the HD 390 will be adding the short shaft as well and Rodney has already shipped me one of his re-inforced and blue printed transmissions, Mcleod dual disk clutch, looking to re-inforce torque tube etc, still not sure I won't blow the rear end--Roger Vinci has insisted on putting one of his scatter shields over the clutch and bell housing--if we could keep 4lbs in a 415ci then I think with the same small pulley we could get 5# to a 436ci with an intercooler--at least a 100 if not 150 more rwhp--just what I need 700rwhp for going 35mph up and down the beach area I live in--
Melting Slicks
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From: Westford MA
Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (Devil Dog)
The Magnuson has limited airflow potential, make sure you contact Magnuson about how much HP their system can support before attempting to install one on a stroker set-up.
It would be nice if someone made a Whipple (lysholm screw) blower for the C5.
It would be nice if someone made a Whipple (lysholm screw) blower for the C5.
Scott
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From: Suffolk, Long Island NY
Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (BigLew)
After my conversation with the guys at Magna yesterday about a boost loss with my new headers
I was given some pretty crazy numbers on the HP and was told that they would be backing the unit down to stay within the "safe range" for the stock LS1 engine. Which brought up my next issue, why not offer something for us guys who would like to forge the bottom and push the envelope?
Drifting
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From: Fort Collins CO
Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (LymanSS)
I know that there's a whipple kit for the stang cobra. I believe the stock blower on the stang is essentially the same supercharger that we are using. So it would make sense that the whipple might bolt on to the intake manifold using whatever method they use for the stang conversion (not sure if it comes with a whole different manifold, or if the blowers just both use the same bolt pattern. In any case, an intercooled Lysholm screw would be flat out awesome.
Scott
Scott
http://www.kennebell.net/supercharge...03/cobra03.htm
I wonder how the fitment works out with the intake position, and if the driveshaft of the blower ends up in a usable position on C5's?
From looking around Kenne Bell's site a bit, it looks as though there are a few different blower drive/inlet configurations:
http://www.kennebell.net/supercharge...0/hummer60.htm
Sent them e-mail to see if they had any plans, and to verify if it is or is not a direct bolt-on. I suspect that physically bolting the blower in place wouldn't be the problem, but I think plumbing the intake and the jackshaft might be the configurational difficulty.
Let's see!
-Jake
Melting Slicks
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From: Westford MA
Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (JakeL)
ISent them e-mail to see if they had any plans, and to verify if it is or is not a direct bolt-on. I suspect that physically bolting the blower in place wouldn't be the problem, but I think plumbing the intake and the jackshaft might be the configurational difficulty.
Let's see!
-Jake
Let's see!
-Jake
Scott
Drifting
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From: Fort Collins CO
Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (LymanSS)
Any news yet? I'm eager to hear what they have to say about it. I think you're right about the intake plumbing and jackshaft being the major difficulties, but it'd be worth the effort to find a solution.
Scott
Scott
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zerothread?id=638350
Cheers!
-Jake
Burning Brakes
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From: az
Re: Intercooler for the Mag!!!??? (Devil Dog)
The Magnacharger blower is basically the same unit used on the Ford Lightning and Cobra. I know the Lightning is intercooled. The intercooler is a part of the intake manifold and maybe they are redesigning the blower howsing in order to keep height down. I my opinion I think the only good thing about the Mag. is the looks.