HELP - car won't start.
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HELP - car won't start.
Electrionics working, battery seems fine, but makes absolutely no noise with a turn of the ignition. This happened once before and it started fine at the dealer the next day after being towed there. The only thing the dealer could come up with was that the computer registered an alarm trigger. I didn't hear anything last night though. Please I can use some advice!!!!Thanks.
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Use your DIC and scan your codes,
Post them here and youl'll get many responses. From your initial symptom of no crank it could be several things. Need the fault codes to pinpoint....hopefully.
Post them here and youl'll get many responses. From your initial symptom of no crank it could be several things. Need the fault codes to pinpoint....hopefully.
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Originally Posted by 2toys
Use your DIC and scan your codes,
Post them here and youl'll get many responses. From your initial symptom of no crank it could be several things. Need the fault codes to pinpoint....hopefully.
Post them here and youl'll get many responses. From your initial symptom of no crank it could be several things. Need the fault codes to pinpoint....hopefully.
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going off my bad memory...hold down option button, then press fuel button 4 times quickly
It should then cycle throuhg all your current and historical codes (also check out the tech tips section)
It should then cycle throuhg all your current and historical codes (also check out the tech tips section)
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Originally Posted by Automag928
going off my bad memory...hold down option button, then press fuel button 4 times quickly
It should then cycle throuhg all your current and historical codes (also check out the tech tips section)
It should then cycle throuhg all your current and historical codes (also check out the tech tips section)
Here's what I got:
40BCM - B2723 H
58SDM - B1001 H
60IPC - U1160H
Everything else it ran through said "no codes". I'll search CF, but does anyone know what these are? Or how about a dealership in South NJ to tow to?
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First question... were you having problems with the "SECURITY" light sometimes?
I had this exact problem for about 6 months and it will happen more and more often until you replace the ignition switch.
I'll bet you a dollar that is your problem.
The contacts in the ignition that 'read' the impedence on the little resistor on the key start to crack from the tiny wires. It gets a reading that doesnt match what the computer is expecting... so the car wont start.
Check your DIC codes and I have a feeling you will find P1631...
You will have a lot of people say that you need a new key, clean your switch, get rid of keychains... they all helped me temporarily, but I ended up having to get the switch replaced anyways.
PM me if you need any more help.
I had this exact problem for about 6 months and it will happen more and more often until you replace the ignition switch.
I'll bet you a dollar that is your problem.
The contacts in the ignition that 'read' the impedence on the little resistor on the key start to crack from the tiny wires. It gets a reading that doesnt match what the computer is expecting... so the car wont start.
Check your DIC codes and I have a feeling you will find P1631...
You will have a lot of people say that you need a new key, clean your switch, get rid of keychains... they all helped me temporarily, but I ended up having to get the switch replaced anyways.
PM me if you need any more help.
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Originally Posted by bsmith
First question... were you having problems with the "SECURITY" light sometimes?
I had this exact problem for about 6 months and it will happen more and more often until you replace the ignition switch.
I'll bet you a dollar that is your problem.
The contacts in the ignition that 'read' the impedence on the little resistor on the key start to crack from the tiny wires. It gets a reading that doesnt match what the computer is expecting... so the car wont start.
Check your DIC codes and I have a feeling you will find P1631...
You will have a lot of people say that you need a new key, clean your switch, get rid of keychains... they all helped me temporarily, but I ended up having to get the switch replaced anyways.
PM me if you need any more help.
I had this exact problem for about 6 months and it will happen more and more often until you replace the ignition switch.
I'll bet you a dollar that is your problem.
The contacts in the ignition that 'read' the impedence on the little resistor on the key start to crack from the tiny wires. It gets a reading that doesnt match what the computer is expecting... so the car wont start.
Check your DIC codes and I have a feeling you will find P1631...
You will have a lot of people say that you need a new key, clean your switch, get rid of keychains... they all helped me temporarily, but I ended up having to get the switch replaced anyways.
PM me if you need any more help.
40BCM - Body Control Module, B2723H Pass Key Detect Circuit
58SDM - B1001H Couldn't find this one.
60IPC - Instrument Panel Cluster, U1160H - Loss of communications w/ LDCM
The first one sounds right on the mark for what you are thinking.
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Originally Posted by cjlaw73
40BCM - Body Control Module, B2723H Pass Key Detect Circuit
Do not have the car towed to the dealership yet. After a while the problem will probably clear itself and you will be able to drive to the dealership. It may have been placebo effect, but if I sat in the car and put the shifter into another gear, or fiddled with the power door locks the car would start. I had mine do this probably 50 times before I got it fixed and it never once stranded me.
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Originally Posted by bsmith
thats the other one that I couldnt remember off the top of my head.
Do not have the car towed to the dealership yet. After a while the problem will probably clear itself and you will be able to drive to the dealership. It may have been placebo effect, but if I sat in the car and put the shifter into another gear, or fiddled with the power door locks the car would start. I had mine do this probably 50 times before I got it fixed and it never once stranded me.
Do not have the car towed to the dealership yet. After a while the problem will probably clear itself and you will be able to drive to the dealership. It may have been placebo effect, but if I sat in the car and put the shifter into another gear, or fiddled with the power door locks the car would start. I had mine do this probably 50 times before I got it fixed and it never once stranded me.
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Originally Posted by bsmith
before you tow it... pull fuse #25 from the passenger side footwell and then reinstall it. Its worth a shot before you call the flatbed.
good luck.
good luck.
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When this happened to me, I tighten the cable connections to the battery - even though my lights came on, the instrument panel was active. When I got back into the car, it started up. It was probably a short somewhere. Hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by Road Runner
When this happened to me, I tighten the cable connections to the battery - even though my lights came on, the instrument panel was active. When I got back into the car, it started up. It was probably a short somewhere. Hope this helps.
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Dealer told me the same "give it 20 minutes and try again" solution but it didn't work.
Thanks to everyone for their kind advice. I'll post later when I find out what the prognosis is. Maybe it'll help someone in the future.
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I still say the ignition switch gave up the ghost...
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part # 12458190---list price $101.07 I negotiated $75.
part # 26047315 retainer price $.90.
1.5 hours labor and I have had no problems since that day.
grand total of $178.72 out the door.