13.4!!! HAHAHA

 

13.4!!! HAHAHA

And the Supraforums guys say that a BPU Supra runs 12.0.

 

actually his best time is 12.9

 

hey you want to snap heads and have people follow you down the road 5 miles into a gas station to look at your car. do the tigershark bodykit and get a hood and some really nice wheels and a nice exhaust and other mods as well snky snky. well at least in buffalo, ny people seem to do this. it happened to me people all ways comment on my car because its different and they dont see it done to nicer cars. as for your dillemma(spelling) i could have got a 900whp supra all done up for about the same price as my vette, but i didnt get the supra because of a bunch of reasons. the zo6 had 2400 miles on the supra had 125k on body and 5k on motor. the zo6 i have has a 6 year extended warranty the supra none. the zo6 handles like a rollercoaster and can beat a very high percentage of cars on the street and the track, the supra is only good for one thing thats straight line speed from 70-whenever. just my .02 on what i have expirienced and from videos ive seen. just make the vette fast and you'll be happy.

 

So what, hes a bad driver, 117 traps is plenty for 12.0 et's with a good driver.

Edit: Here is a 6spd Supra with barely anything done to it.
Video: http://www.fastkars.com/400_in_mods.WMV

 

Eh... not always. They need abotu 450 rwhp to "own" a Z06. My buddy has a small single on his making 420 rwhp and I'll still pull him up top b/c of aero and gearing.

 

A SUPRA? Are you joking? 10 years ago a Supra was a decent car but compared to a 01-04 Z06, you have got to be kidding me! Buy the Z!!!

 

I agree. You're talking about a car built over a decade ago. Go with the Supra if you're into import nostalgia and old rides. If you want the latest and greatest, get a Z06. Its a decade ahead of the Supra in handling and overall performance and driveability.

Flog a Z06 on a high speed road course, then try the same in a Supra. You'll see the difference right away.

I really don't see the appeal to highway roll-on races, which is the only the thing a BPU+ Supra excels at. Take it to the track where its legal and safer.

Having said all this, I think a Supra would be fun to tinker with, but not at these prices. Supra prices are insane for a 10 year old car.

 

What the heck is going on here? A Supra is a forced induction car, ****ty powerband, heavy and cost way too much when new and used. Going round corners fast with it, don't. For a Supra to even keep up with a 550 rwhp vette, it would need at least 650 or more rwhp. I was at the Las Vegas shootout and saw five heavily modified 600+ hp Supras there, only one of them ran into the 11's. I've seen K&N filtered otherwise stock Z06's run 11's before. Can't keep the king down with a way overrated **** box.

 

Make no mistake... a modified single turbo Supra demands respect. They may not be able to take a corner as fast as us, but in a straight line they are hard to beat. I believe a stock drivetrain Supra turbo can handle 1000hp. If you want hp and straight line speed and the bottom line is speed.... get a 6 speed Supra turbo. If you want a solid all around sports car, modify the Z.

I would not ever own a Supra... just seen what they are capable of.

 

I made the mistake of buying a MKIV Supra TT after selling my 1st 3rd Gen RX-7. I dumped the Supra in nine months and went right back to RX-7s. What you have to understand is that the Supra is a Toyota, which means it is very competent, incrediby well engineered, and does everything well on paper. Those in here that bash it for reliability, slow around corners etc are full of crap and have never driven one. This car, in stock form was an amazing performer in its day, and more than a match for any other car on the road.

That said, the Supra was just not that exciting to drive. It lacked that edgy, fast racer feel that the RX-7 and the C5 Vettes have. Furthermore, technology has just moved on and the Z06 manages to be incredibly fast, comfortable, and still keep that race car feel.

Regarding modding, you will probably be disappointed here too. Yes, it is easy to make big power, but even the stock turbos on this car have noticeable lag, and power under the curve suffers. There is also the considerable weight of the car. The result is that you will have a 400RWHP car that gets pulled on the highway and gets clobbered out of the hole by a bone stock Z06. I know, because I've been on both sides of that.

Frankly, if you want a beautiful, stupid fast car that handles with the Z06 and can be modded to be incredibly fast, then get a 3rd Gen RX-7, preferrably a '94 or '95. Just plan on working on it often. Then again, why bother. Just enjoy the Z06 and drive it like ya stole it.

That's the conclusion I came to.

 

I am confused with this whole post. What group you want to run with. Owning a corvette puts you in a universal club that has a code. We own what we own because of the many outstanding qualities of this auto, both in performance and design. But the real benefits are the owners.
Listen its a free country, you want to run with the XXX group, go for it, but in terms of member quality you just took a wrong turn.
If I broke down in my 300zx commuter car, (bucket of bolts) I doubt a fellow ricer would stop. Hell I pulled over in my C3 and just popped the hood to check a belt noise and a C4 pull up and asked if I needed help. Thats cool, did not know him from adam. Think about it.
Good Luck!

 

Wish the vette came turbo/SC stock with the 2JZ's internals!

The best thing, as previously stated, is that the engine is superb in every respect. Toyota did it right. And for its day it was a great car. And yes they can easily just turn up the boost or just swap a turbo and get more power. But I haven't seen any real results from them on the whole. The Z06 is easy to see. Everyone who drives it for 3 times down the strip can lay a pretty decent time. Almost all the Z06s I have heard about with any sort of work, however minor it is, is into the 11's. Hell I'm even trapping at ~120ish and I can't drag race for crap!

I respect the Supra (Except that driver... 13.4 ) just don't think it's the cats **** that everyone else does.

 

So I guess you haven't ran into one yet? There are some Supra's that have very stong top end speed. Out of the whole they are pretty slow due to the lag.

 

Number 1, anyone that tells you a Supra handles like crap is full of crap. The handling is excellent, although not as good as a 3000 lb Z06 or 2700 lb RX-7. (BTW, please consider the grenade-prone, bumble bee-sounding RX-7 a joke. You don't want except as a stripped track only car with lots of spare engines. ) The Supra had quicker road course times when new against its peers, which included the ZR-1 Vette AND the RX-7 TT. Also, find a Z06 anywhere that has equaled the Blitz tuned Supra's N-Ring time of 7:21s done in the late '90s. That is FFFFASSSSTT!! (Seriously, someone find one, I haven't seen it)

A friend of mine with bolt on mods for his stock twin (BPU) was running very low 1:40s at Road Atlanta----that's quite fast and faster than most of the modded Z06s that run there. It wouldn't have any trap speed advantage over the Z06 at the low boost levels he ran at BPU. After his single turbo he was running in the high 1:30s, VERY fast at Road Atlanta for a full weight street car and quicker than most street cars, period. The car nails the corners with ease and pulls the straights like nothing else.

Rather than watching videos of 19 year olds trying to drag race high HP Supras on street tires , please take a look at this list, to see some that have been driven well. You will see some extremely fast times here, and most of these are true often daily driven street cars, all of them on independent rear suspension:

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...hreadid=253322

And do not think for one second that this car is not reliable. LOL I would trust it over many new cars based on my experience.

No arguing the Z06 is a better overall performance car, but the Supra is much better built and still a great ride. The Supra will still be valuable for a long time, whereas the C5 Z06 probably will be dropping rather quickly soon. If you hold off and get a small to medium sized single turbo (550-700 RWHP), you can get quick spool for great power by about 3500 rpm and crushing top end power. Just do a little research.

 

Z06's are evening out at around 30k and should hold that for quite a bit. Yes you could build a Supra w/ a medium spool etc etc etc and it'd still be slower than a track prep'd Z06. They're really only good for going very very very fast from 60+. The motor is great from the factory and the design is timeless b/c they still look amazing even today.

Mod the Z06 dude...

 

Read this list for some dyno queen only standing start times.

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...hreadid=253322

 

1) No. To most people the Supra is just another old semi-sporty looking Toyota. Yes, you'll wow the pimply-faced teenage F&F wannabes, but that's about it. Everyone knows what a Corvette is. I see fewer Pintos than I do Vettes, but that doesn't make the Pinto more desirable. While I am no big fan of C5 styling (particularly the FRC), I can still vividly remember the first time I laid eyes on a final generation Supra. I was astounded by its ugliness 12 years ago, and the damn things seem to get uglier every time I see one. There's a reason Toyota sold so few Supras, and it wasn't lack of performance. Its simply an unpleasant looking, wierdly- proportioned abomination.

2) No. A stock Z06 will destroy a stock Supra TT in ANY contest of speed. A car that traps 108 mph will not beat a car that traps 117mph on the highway. In fact, the Supra gets beat badly by a non-Z06 Vette of similar vintage. For lack of any better empirical data, I refer you to Car & Driver's tests of the 1997 Corvette and the Supra TT.

Vette
0-60: 4.8
0-150: 33.6
60-150: 28.8

Supra TT
0-60: 5.0
0-150: 41.6
60-150: 36.6

The Vette gets from 60 to 150 mph 7.8 seconds quicker than the Poopra. 7.8 seconds is bus lengths at those speeds. Hell, a stock Supra TT might be a good race for my '01 Buick Regal (13.4@105). It is simply laughable to compare a stock Supra TT with a stock Z06 in terms of performance, whether it be from a stop, roll, or off of a cliff. This is no contest. There's a lot of hype around the Supra. Most of it is riceboy fantasy, nothing more.

3) True. $ = Speed when it comes to mods.

 

Supras are good cars if you just want to boos the hell out of it.

he're an old saying;

Whats the difference between a stock supra, a 500hp supra and a 1000Hp supra.......

Not Much they all run 13's

 

That's only because there hasn't been a heavily modded Z06 mated with a great driver shipped over to Germany to run it yet. Just because it hasn't been done yet, doesn't mean there isn't a Z06 and a driver out there capable of beating that time. I'm quite certain Lingenfelter can build a 427 TT Z06 that together with the Nurburgring's best drivers can beat that Supra's time. And lets not forget that Blitz tuned Supra was purposely built to run the 'ring, and is hardly a streetable daily driver. More of a full race car.