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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 07:52 AM
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Anyone in the western burbs of Philly that has installed a CLB? I am looking for some assistance from someone that has done the installation.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 07:55 AM
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It's really very easy to do yourself.

Here's some decent instructions.

http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?ar...8b49b670d6ba91
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 08:14 AM
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Here is some more install help. Just click onto install a CLB.

http://www.97vette.com/

Agree w/ above thread---It's real EZ to install yourself. Good luck.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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I didn't start this thread but its right on time. The previous owner (I have driven my car 2 times so far) was all proud of himself saying "yea, the recall has been done, actually 2 recalls have been done for the steering column lock on this car". I was thinking, huh???

Bottom line - Column still locks as the key is engaged/disengaged so I got a CLB kit from houston corvette on the way (zip products has it on backorder) and I can't wait on this mod

I say - INSTALL IT YOURSELF, you'll be so proud and satisfied once its done.....
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BiggieBoy
Here is some more install help. Just click onto install a CLB.

http://www.97vette.com/

Agree w/ above thread---It's real EZ to install yourself. Good luck.
I guess my confusion is I have seen instructions that talk about turning the key to the on position in one step and another set of instructions makes no mention of turning the key to on,just plug in the 12 volt power suppy and listen for the lock to disengage. I don't want to screw it up and then have to take it to the dealer. I am with so many other members on this subject. My car is a MN6 and the recall had been done by the previous owner. The column lock has never malfucntioned in the history of the car. With the recall having been done, can the fuel still shutoff if the computer senses a problem, even though the by pass has been installed? In other words the column may not lock up, but the computer will still kill the fuel and a trip to the dealer is still required to fix that and then it becomes obvious that the column lock was installed. It seems as though MN6 owners are in a catch 22 situation. Any comments?

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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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About 4 years ago, I installed a CLB on my '98 A4. I used the 97vette.com instructions and followed them exactly. The install worked perfectly. I can't comment on any other set of install instructions.

Even tho your car has not yet experienced the dreaded column lock problem, eventually, it'll happen. Maybe in 2 days, maybe in 2 months, etc., but it'll happen, and at the worst possible time. There have been thousands of the CLBs sold and in the 3 1/2 years I've been on this forum, and I can't recall anyone reporting problems due to them (except some early year '97-'98 which work fine in some cars and give wacky DIC messages in others). The computer shuts off the fuel when it reads a column lock condition. The CLB prevents the wheel from locking, so how can the fuel be shut off if there isn't a column locking problem??

Install that CLB once you get it or you'll be another member reporting another column locking problem. Good luck...

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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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Sen me a PM. I have to do mine also and I am not that far away
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by skyman51
I guess my confusion is I have seen instructions that talk about turning the key to the on position in one step and another set of instructions makes no mention of turning the key to on,just plug in the 12 volt power suppy and listen for the lock to disengage. I don't want to screw it up and then have to take it to the dealer. I am with so many other members on this subject. My car is a MN6 and the recall had been done by the previous owner. The column lock has never malfucntioned in the history of the car. With the recall having been done, can the fuel still shutoff if the computer senses a problem, even though the by pass has been installed? In other words the column may not lock up, but the computer will still kill the fuel and a trip to the dealer is still required to fix that and then it becomes obvious that the column lock was installed. It seems as though MN6 owners are in a catch 22 situation. Any comments?
I see your pain. The answer to one question is Yes even though you have the CLB installed and for some reason the computer see's a problem with the circuit it will shut down your fuel. "If you've had the recall done" That is why most here will not go in for the recall.

Your other question about applying power or not to the CL. When your installing the CLB or I should say after installing it the CL is disconnected. And if you start your car the CL will still be locked since it's disconnected and won't get 12 volts to unlock. That is why you have to apply 12 volts to it to get it to unlock. Once that is done your good to go.

I was going to try turning the ignition on without starting the car and you'll hear the lock unlock. Then I was going to try disconnecting the battery without turning the ignition off. And seeing if the column stayed unlocked. If it does stay unlocked then you can install the CLB and not worry about unlocking the CL. I hope that made sense.
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Originally Posted by Stock Man
I see your pain. The answer to one question is Yes even though you have the CLB installed and for some reason the computer see's a problem with the circuit it will shut down your fuel. "If you've had the recall done" That is why most here will not go in for the recall.
The fuel has always been programmed to shut off if the column lock fails and the BCM determines it is still in the locked position.

The recall only corrects the condition where the voltage may be low, and the BCM cannot determine the position of the column lock, and allows the car to be driven with the column possibly locked.

As long as you have a device in place (CLB or GM harness) to send a signal back to the BCM telling it the column is unlocked, the fuel will not shut off. This should be true whether you have had the PCM reprogrammed under the recall or not.

Here is an excerpt from the GM recall letter:
"Your vehicle is designed so that if the column fails to unlock when you start your vehicle, the fuel supply will be shut off if you try to move your vehicle. If voltage at the powertrain control is low or interrupted, however, the fuel shut off may not occur and the vehicle can be accelerated while the steering wheel is locked

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