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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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O.K. I have been pondering all aftermarket exhausts. I think I am sold on the GHL's due to the fact that there is no resonance at cruise and all the opinions of other systems, there was someone complaining of that at cruise speed.

My question is...what is the difference between the Magnum series and the Bullet series? I have read alot about the fit and finish of the Bullets and the GHL's in general, but have not heard much about the Magnums.

I have a Ti system on my basically stock '00 coupe. (just a Blackwing and Airbridge) But it isn't the sound I was looking for.

Finally, should I go with an X-pipe or leave the stock H-pipe on and who has the best prices around for GHL's??

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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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I have the quad tip magnums. they are a little louder in the cabin than the bullets is what I was told. Mags are a little less expensive and sound awesome but I haven't heard the bullets so I don't know if they sound as good on the outside or not.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 08:03 PM
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I've got the Bullets with Quad Bullseye Tips and X-pipe. I really wanted the Bullseye Tips and I don't know if those are available with the Magnum series. GHL owner and Forum sponsor, Brian, will probably chime in here sooner or later. For me the sound is absolutely perfect. No drone, no resonance, no popping or motor boating and you can still carry on a normal conversation and listen to your tunes at cruise. I also have the Blackwing and carbon fiber airbridge so our set-ups are very comparable. GHL got it right IMHO and you order directly from the company ... no middleman.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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AFAIK the Magnums have 5" muffler cans with tips made by others and the Bullets have 6" muffler cans and custom made tips by GHL. I think I've heard from GHL, that the Magnums will have a little resonance but the Bullets won't. I have the Bullets and are happy with their performance.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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It's Magnums for me...

Agree with all of the above. Here is the difference in my opinion. There is not much diff. at idle, a slight diff at mid RPM, with the Magnums getting to the semi-exotic sound a tad bit quicker, volume being 10 to 20 percent higher than the bullets at mid throttle. At WOT the both sound great, but the Magnums just sound plain SICK, where the bullets sound awsome. The bullets have almost zero resonance at cruise, where the Magnums have very minor resonance. In fact I have to actually search for the resonance in my Magnums, as it is not apparent in just dirving the car. I would say the Magnums are about 15 to 25 percent louder than the Bullets...(don't have the ability to do DB test so it is just my ear...)

Get the X-pipe...

Call Brian or Jeff direct at GHL, they will hook you up on price. When I got mine they were doing free shipping for CF members...






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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Get the GHLs - hands down unbeatable. Have Bullets on the car and the sound it unbelievable. Just ordered an Xpipe from Brian. I had a few little glitches - and the GHL customer service is what should seal the deal for you. You will read many stories on here of how they GHL went above and beyond the call. Make the jump...
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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My car with the 4" GHLs. I kind of thought the X-pipe was a waste because I still had popping after I installed the kooks, X-pipe and the GHLs. After the cam was installed and I had the car tuned by ECS, it sounds much better on deceleration.


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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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You may also want to consider the magnum plus. From what I've read the also have the 6 inch cans like the bullets but their cost falls in between the bullets and magnums. If I've read correctly the cost difference between magnum plus and bullet series are the tips that are used.
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Originally Posted by Poptops
I've got the Bullets with Quad Bullseye Tips and X-pipe. I really wanted the Bullseye Tips and I don't know if those are available with the Magnum series. GHL owner and Forum sponsor, Brian, will probably chime in here sooner or later. For me the sound is absolutely perfect. No drone, no resonance, no popping or motor boating and you can still carry on a normal conversation and listen to your tunes at cruise. I also have the Blackwing and carbon fiber airbridge so our set-ups are very comparable. GHL got it right IMHO and you order directly from the company ... no middleman.
any way to post some wav files of your respective exhausts just to try and compare?

Much appreciated if you can,

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Originally Posted by Freestyler
any way to post some wav files of your respective exhausts just to try and compare?

Much appreciated if you can,

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Try www.thx2.net/exhaust.htm. You can hear the Bullets, but I haven't heard the Magnums...yet!

Thanks for all of your opinions, keep 'em coming!!
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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Without an X pipe you'll get some pop and gurgle. I like that sound so I haven't added an X, depends on your preference. BTW, I have the Bullets because I wanted NO resonance and that is exactly what I got. GHLs are great no matter which one you choose.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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I've noticed I don't get any popping/gurgle on decel. No x-pipe. I do have the A4, so maybe that's why. ?
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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As other have said.... talk to Brian/Jeff at GHL. They will consult with you and not just try to take an order. After a lenghty conversation with Brian, I ended up with the Bullets. Bullseye tips. The workmanship and the sound are outstanding. As pointed out above, GHL makes the tips for the Bullets and mine were like jewelry.

I can hear the exhaust at cruise. A bit louder than stock, but not objectional. No drone (except from my runflats).

Regarding X pipes and "popping". I didn't get an x pipe. On de-acceleration, I get what I would call "burble", which I like. No loud pop, or anything obnoxious. I plan to add headers later, and have no concerns about the car being to loud with them.

Of course the best advise is to "audition" before you buy, if you can find someone in your area with Bullets or Magnums. That said, I don't think you can make a bad decision either way.


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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim04C5
I've noticed I don't get any popping/gurgle on decel. No x-pipe. I do have the A4, so maybe that's why. ?
That might be it, I have a MN6.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 12:58 AM
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I too have the GHL's on my '04 C5. I went with the Bullets and the
3.5" Bullseye tips. They sound great, if you like that V8 muscle sound,
(who doesn't?) As someone posted earlier, if you do not want ANY
resonance inside the car, get the bullets. I have an A4, but I was still
getting the semi-popping, gurgling sound, which was a little loud, so I
added a Bassani X-pipe, and popping is now gone. The X-pipe did not
change the great sound, or volume, but it is slightly smoother. I would
highly recommend the GHL Bullets, the quality, fit, and their support is
first class. Good luck with your choice.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 04:22 AM
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....L.A.P.D. hooked me up with GHL 4" quad Bullets. The Bullets are the best set up they offer for any resonance issues. The larger can seems to do the trick. I have an A4 so an X-pipe wouldn't really matter. The sound of these starting up or at WOT is my favorite part of driving the car. You can not go wrong with this company or their product,,,,
Good luck......
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I originally bought just the 4" Quad Magnums and an X pipe - That sound was amazing at all speeds, especially WOT. Then I added Longtubes and off road pipes and it did get louder - At WOT it sounds like someone just cracked open the seventh sign Yet at cruise and idle it is not so you can't talk.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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Thanks everyone!! The thing I like the most about the replys I've gotten is the pictures. In both sets you guys did a great job of aligning the tips!!! They look awesome!! As soon as I am back from a week in Cancun, I will be spending the "rest" of my vacation $$ and praying for SPRING!!!
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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I have the Magnums and love them. Brain is a good guy to deal with. I would go with GHL if you are looking for a good sound.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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I have the GHL Bullett 3 1/2 in quads with no x-pipe. Sound fit and finish are perfect.
I do have a blackwing and smooth air coupler. The combination has given me a lot of extra get up an go. I need to dyno it for real numbers but, just doing my own test, the old azz of meter says WOWEEEEEEEEE !!
And they GHL's are wife approved.
My cost was $895 with free shipping. Got them from Brian at GHL.
You will love them.
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