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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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Purchased on April 15th a 2003 with 6700 miles with Selective Ride Control.

The car rides terrible in either position touring/sport. I recently sold a 2000 with the "old" three positiion ride contol this car rode very nice.

The 2003 rides so stiff to the point that the seat belt has automatically tensioned on a large bump a couple of times. It seems to "bounce" in the touring position like on a trampoline and very stiff and also bounce in the sport position. (My 1984 Vette rode better)

This car seems to ride so bad compared to the 2000 I am sure that there must be something wrong with it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please either post or e-mail me.

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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 11:56 AM
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I think the dealer was supposed to remove something on the shocks during prep that they place there for shipping. They still could be on there.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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I think the dealer was supposed to remove something on the shocks during prep that they place there for shipping. They still could be on there.

That's what it sounds like
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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I just purchased a 2003 with the magnetic suspension and I LOVE IT...........I sold my 2000 with only active handling and with this new suspension, I can tell a world of idfference. Why not take it back in under warranty and have it checked out. My 2000 also had Goodyear EMT and this one has Michelin Pilot Sports and I know that is part of the difference but I can tell the difference between the 2 cars, like night and day.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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You CAN tell if the stuffers are still in place without lifting the car, but you CANNOT remove the stuffers without lifting the car.

Look at a rear shocks from behind a rear wheel. A yellow plastic strap about 1/2 inch wide hangs out of the shock boot to let you know that they are still in place. Or the he rear shocks can also be seen by crawling under the rear of car and reaching up the shock rod. Push up the black rubber boot and see if a yellow plastic strap is hanging down.

The front is a bit harder to see w/o jacking up the car. You might try turning the wheels hard one way, and look from the rear of tire.

To remove the stuffers, you must lift the car to allow the suspension to hang (ramps won't work). This extends the shocks and provides room to remove the stuffer after pushing the boot upward.

Just push up the black boot, and push the stuffer out from one side. the stuffer has a slot on one side to push off the rod.

I hope this helps
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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Were these stuffers also used on cars without "ride control"?
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Stuffers were only used on the Magnetic Selective Ride Control C5's.

I'll bet that what the original poster's problem is. This was such a prevalent problem - dealers forgetting to remove the stuffers during prep - that they released a TSB on it.

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/....php?qstId=485
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Patches
Stuffers were only used on the Magnetic Selective Ride Control C5's.

I'll bet that what the original poster's problem is. This was such a prevalent problem - dealers forgetting to remove the stuffers during prep - that they released a TSB on it.

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/....php?qstId=485
Now I am more convinced than ever that most people that are employed by dealerships (in the service dept) have no idea of what they are doing. I don't know if it's training or their just plain dumb. I would never have thought of what was discussed in this post without reading it. I have had my car since July 03 and I just removed the stuffers 5 minutes ago. That would explain why I lowered the car and you could hardly tell. I even went as far as cutting the front bushings in an effort to get the front lower. There has to be some legal liability by the dealer. I am presently not a happy camper with GM and they will here from me tomorrow morning. I cannot believe or accept "sorry we forgot". Sorry for the long reply and rant. I am trying to look at the positive side(the car now sits at the level that I want it to); but I just think of how many other owners have the same problem and not even know about it. Just SAD.....
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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You have to love this forum though. At least a lot of guys here know what they are talking about. Glad you got it straightened out. You should notice one heck of a difference in the ride.
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Originally Posted by 3318C5
Now I am more convinced than ever that most people that are employed by dealerships (in the service dept) have no idea of what they are doing. I don't know if it's training or their just plain dumb. I would never have thought of what was discussed in this post without reading it. I have had my car since July 03 and I just removed the stuffers 5 minutes ago. That would explain why I lowered the car and you could hardly tell. I even went as far as cutting the front bushings in an effort to get the front lower. There has to be some legal liability by the dealer. I am presently not a happy camper with GM and they will here from me tomorrow morning. I cannot believe or accept "sorry we forgot". Sorry for the long reply and rant. I am trying to look at the positive side(the car now sits at the level that I want it to); but I just think of how many other owners have the same problem and not even know about it. Just SAD.....
Check the Shocks for leaks. I have not heard of any damage to them from having the stuffers in for a long time but I would make sure that they are not leaking or anything. They are very expensive and I would Hold GM or your Dealer responsible for any shock problems you might have.
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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Are these stuffers on F45 suspensions or only F55? I have an 2001 with the selective damping and can't tell the difference between the 3 settings...
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Only used on F55 - Magnetic Selective Ride Control.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by hollyt


You CAN tell if the stuffers are still in place without lifting the car, but you CANNOT remove the stuffers without lifting the car.

Look at a rear shocks from behind a rear wheel. A yellow plastic strap about 1/2 inch wide hangs out of the shock boot to let you know that they are still in place. Or the he rear shocks can also be seen by crawling under the rear of car and reaching up the shock rod. Push up the black rubber boot and see if a yellow plastic strap is hanging down.

The front is a bit harder to see w/o jacking up the car. You might try turning the wheels hard one way, and look from the rear of tire.

To remove the stuffers, you must lift the car to allow the suspension to hang (ramps won't work). This extends the shocks and provides room to remove the stuffer after pushing the boot upward.

Just push up the black boot, and push the stuffer out from one side. the stuffer has a slot on one side to push off the rod.

I hope this helps
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeN
Purchased on April 15th a 2003 with 6700 miles with Selective Ride Control.

The car rides terrible in either position touring/sport. I recently sold a 2000 with the "old" three positiion ride contol this car rode very nice.

MikeN
I bet the previous owner sold it because of the terrible ride.... It is amazing someone could pay so much for this option, and then put up with it not working for two years and almost 7000 miles.

The sad thing is that this has been a problem for a couple of years. I don't recall reading about 2004's with the stuffers still in place, but I bet there are still some 03's running around out there with them. GM needs to bite the bullet and send letters to all the owners of F55 2003's, at least offering to inspect the cars for stuffers. The sad thing is, the dealer gets paid for "dealer prep" - I guess that's just extortion money.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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I had this same problem when I picked mine up. One rough ride until you remove them. I think the original owner traded it in becuase of the rough ride. I drove for about 5000 miles until I saw the yellow straps sticking out while doing an oil change.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 12:44 PM
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Default Stuffers in Place - What a change - NICE RIDE!!!!!!

Looked under rear of car "Yellow Ribbon" hanging out of shock.

Went to dealer this morning had them removed - what a difference.

Thanks to all,

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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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Also, one other thing to watch out for in anyone ever has one of these shocks replaced, the new ones also have the stuffer and the dealer might not remove it. This has happened to one of our members.
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Just had the same problem...bought demo '03 and stuffers were not removed....dealer had to replace rear shocks because they were damaged. Might want to have a "reputable" dealer take a look.
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glad you got it solved. my 03 rides like a dream so yours should too!
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Originally Posted by MikeN
Looked under rear of car "Yellow Ribbon" hanging out of shock.

Went to dealer this morning had them removed - what a difference.

Thanks to all,

MikeN
Wow! Hard to believe that the original owner drove for almost 7k miles with those things on there.
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