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Old May 8, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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bought a 2000 mag red coupe 5k miles from fla. car is in like new condition . well I clay bared the car and came out nice. then the problem started . I used a pre wax cleaner made by ( liquid glass ) which I have used before with no problems on my c4. did a small section at a time in 60deg temp. in shaded area . when I tried to remove it I had to really rub it with the mico fiber towel to get it off ? when I did get it off I noticed scratches in the clear coat ? did this car have some type of paint sealer on it to hide the scratches put on by the original owner ? he never mentioned anything ! any suggestions how to get the scratches out ? the rest of the car I did'nt have a problem with .
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What area of the car did you have the problem? And depending on how bad the scratches are it could be easy with a Porter Cable random orbit polisher with a light compound. Pics would be good if you have the macro setting. TTT
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Ya have to becareful with microfiber towels. They contain different percentages of cotton/fiber. The cheaper ones will leave scratches.

We use old tshirts at the shop (with all the seams cut out) for final polishing.

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Old May 8, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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3M Swirl & Scratch Remover!
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Old May 8, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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sorry guys , scratches are on the hood (pass side only) not fingernail deep , can't even feel them , like i said i think there in the clear coat ?. with the 3m swirl remover do you need the buffer or by hand? thanks guys for the info!!
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We use old tshirts
same here. About once per year I'll visit a Salvation Army/Goodwill thrift store. They will have used T-Shirts for 25 cents. Look for the ones that are 100% cotton - and that the fabric is not balled-up any.
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sorry guys , scratches are on the hood (pass side only) not fingernail deep , can't even feel them , like i said i think there in the clear coat ?. with the 3m swirl remover do you need the buffer or by hand? thanks guys for the info!!
You can do it by hand. I use 100% cotton towels. A buffer is preffered but not neccesary. I've heard Meguiar's NXT is good also.
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ScratchX will work and can be used by hand or machine.
The type of Micro-fiber or terry will be important.

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plan on buying the porta cable polisher and trying to buff scratches out with 3m swirl mark and scratch remover , what speed should I use on polisher?
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considering you're not buffing out wet-sand scratches i'd say that 1200 rpm would be fine with the compound, and for the polishing, somewhat slower..bout 900 rpm should do well for you. i'm not framiliar with the buffer that the other folks are referring, so i dont know if the speeds correspond with rpms but, the compound is designed to "cut" and the faster the speed, the more the swirls, a good polish/wax always makes things look better. keep your pads clean as you go, nothing like a big piece of dirt cutting in your clear.
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I've always used 100% cotton diapers for all my waxing/polishing, try zainobros.com, you might find the answer.
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Originally Posted by jay'szo6
3M Swirl & Scratch Remover!
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Originally Posted by 26sonic
bought a 2000 mag red coupe 5k miles from fla. car is in like new condition . well I clay bared the car and came out nice. then the problem started . I used a pre wax cleaner made by ( liquid glass ) which I have used before with no problems on my c4. did a small section at a time in 60deg temp. in shaded area . when I tried to remove it I had to really rub it with the mico fiber towel to get it off ? when I did get it off I noticed scratches in the clear coat ? did this car have some type of paint sealer on it to hide the scratches put on by the original owner ? he never mentioned anything ! any suggestions how to get the scratches out ? the rest of the car I did'nt have a problem with .
I recommend this dual head polisher. It is impossible to do any damage to your paint. I bought the light duty foam pads for putting on the polish. They also have terry cloth bonnets for taking it off, but I just keep buffing until all the polish is almost gone and then just wipe off the residue with a cotton towel.
http://www.topoftheline.com/tolae/cyclo-polisher.html
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Originally Posted by MyBlueC5
Ya have to becareful with microfiber towels. They contain different percentages of cotton/fiber. The cheaper ones will leave scratches.

We use old tshirts at the shop (with all the seams cut out) for final polishing.

Mark
??? - microfiber contains NO cotton!

http://store.yahoo.com/autopia/inf-microfiber.html
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Go to Zainobros.com. Under their FAQs and Tips they tell you to NOT use microfiber because of questionable contents. Always use 100% cotton, high quality towels. Zaino has a product for removing the swirls, which has worked well for me in the past on the few small locations I've needed it. Read the various sections of their website and you will soon learn all you need to know about keeping your car shiny... initial wash, claybar, wax, polish, etc.
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I thought Zainos was now giving dftowels the positive nod as a MF towel that can be used for wax/polish removal. I know their alpine fiber towels are not exactly like MF but they seem to work pretty good and don't scratch. I did just buy the Costco MF. I think $9 for 16, 16X16 towels. I washed them all and then tried everyone of them on a CD rubbing pretty firmly with no scratches.

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Go to Zainobros.com. Under their FAQs and Tips they tell you to NOT use microfiber because of questionable contents. Always use 100% cotton, high quality towels. Zaino has a product for removing the swirls, which has worked well for me in the past on the few small locations I've needed it. Read the various sections of their website and you will soon learn all you need to know about keeping your car shiny... initial wash, claybar, wax, polish, etc.
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Originally Posted by MyBlueC5
Ya have to becareful with microfiber towels. They contain different percentages of cotton/fiber. The cheaper ones will leave scratches.

We use old tshirts at the shop (with all the seams cut out) for final polishing.

Mark
Mark, I've got a half-decent orbital buffer but I'd like to get a real buffer...but I'm scared to death of using one of the things. The last thing I want is to cut or burn through my paint. Any tips?
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Microfibre is indeed, only microfibre (unless the towel has been blended with cotton...)

I got a '9 yard' towel from autozone that i actually love, it ends up being about 2/3rds of a yard and it seems 'the waffle structure is supposed to be where the missing miles are... dunno but it IS a good cloth, sure does get runs easily tho!

Question: can anyone comment on the number of layers of paint, no of layers of clear are standard from the factory, and what they would expect from a bodyshop/paintgarage?

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