[Z06] 2004 Z06/z16
Intermediate
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From: Somewhere MD
Originally Posted by Zeeman
I would almost bet here....that you DO NOT own a Z16? But would like to? 
Oh well.if not...so be it...I LOVE my Z16 and will hang on to her for quite sometime......
Zeeman
Oh well.if not...so be it...I LOVE my Z16 and will hang on to her for quite sometime......Zeeman
Different strokes for different folks. I'm glad you like your car, but two facts remain:
1) The Z16 Z06 outnumbers any other color 2004 Z06 by a large margin.
2) They were plenty of Z16s on dealer lots long after other 2004 Z06s were sold. Draw you own conlcusions, but that says to me that most Z06 buyers don't share your enthusiam for the Z16.
Intermediate
Joined: Aug 2002
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From: Somewhere MD
Originally Posted by Steve Carter
Sorry, you are not correct on this one.
Is it color that make a car rare? I don’t think so. I ran across this...
Early hood problems which put 75% of the production in the last 1/2 of the year and fully 50% in the last 3 months. (Z16 #1000 came off the line on 3/12/04 and #2025 on 6/14/04). That last fact is the real reason so many of these were leftover as the Corvette generation changed.
Is it color that make a car rare? I don’t think so. I ran across this...
Early hood problems which put 75% of the production in the last 1/2 of the year and fully 50% in the last 3 months. (Z16 #1000 came off the line on 3/12/04 and #2025 on 6/14/04). That last fact is the real reason so many of these were leftover as the Corvette generation changed.
You ask if color makes the car rare. In this case, the Z16 package comes down to 99% color. The CF hood is of no consequence in terms of performance. The unique wheels are mildly intriquing (too bad you have to buy the CE to get them), but the biggest difference between a Z16 and a regular Z06 is paint. So, in this case, color is the differentiating feature. Hence, the Z16 is the most common 2004 Z06.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Mar 2004
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From: Campbell New York
If you like the Z06 performance and can afford it buy it; with whatever color/ option you like the best! When my decals fall off I will have them painted on but that will take about 15-20 years for them to degrade.
I will probably buy another Z16 since this one has been so good to me!
I will probably buy another Z16 since this one has been so good to me!
Racer
Joined: Oct 2004
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From: Edgewood WA
Originally Posted by RealityCheck
Interesting. That does explain why there were so many around when I bought my car in June. However, my brother bought his Z06 in October and had a hard time finding anything but a Z16.
You ask if color makes the car rare. In this case, the Z16 package comes down to 99% color. The CF hood is of no consequence in terms of performance. The unique wheels are mildly intriquing (too bad you have to buy the CE to get them), but the biggest difference between a Z16 and a regular Z06 is paint. So, in this case, color is the differentiating feature. Hence, the Z16 is the most common 2004 Z06.
You ask if color makes the car rare. In this case, the Z16 package comes down to 99% color. The CF hood is of no consequence in terms of performance. The unique wheels are mildly intriquing (too bad you have to buy the CE to get them), but the biggest difference between a Z16 and a regular Z06 is paint. So, in this case, color is the differentiating feature. Hence, the Z16 is the most common 2004 Z06.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 2003
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From: 07 black c6z
Rare is in the eye of the beholder.
Just get a Z06-c5. I bet most don't understand the FUN FACTOR of this car. On this board, sure, but the rest of the world? No.
I got a Z16 Z06 for the package. The reason most chose NOT to get this car was the price. It was $10K more than a regular Z06 2004.
Dealers held on to them and then, in Canada, quickly sold out of ALL Z06's in 2004. Most dealers did NOT order a lot of 2004 Z06's.
If anyone wants a fun vette, get a 01-04 Z06!
It's a keeper.
-Bill.
Just get a Z06-c5. I bet most don't understand the FUN FACTOR of this car. On this board, sure, but the rest of the world? No.
I got a Z16 Z06 for the package. The reason most chose NOT to get this car was the price. It was $10K more than a regular Z06 2004.
Dealers held on to them and then, in Canada, quickly sold out of ALL Z06's in 2004. Most dealers did NOT order a lot of 2004 Z06's.
If anyone wants a fun vette, get a 01-04 Z06!
It's a keeper.
-Bill.
Last edited by smook; May 19, 2005 at 06:48 AM.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Nov 1999
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From: N Cal
Originally Posted by RealityCheck
You are correct, I don't have a Z16. There were plenty of Z16s on dealer lots when I bought my car new last June, but IMHO the CE is well....ugly. I could have bought a Z16 locally, but drove 100 miles to get a silver Z06. My brother flew from Detroit to New York to buy his Z06, despite plenty of Z16s available locally at the time.
Different strokes for different folks. I'm glad you like your car, but two facts remain:
1) The Z16 Z06 outnumbers any other color 2004 Z06 by a large margin.
2) They were plenty of Z16s on dealer lots long after other 2004 Z06s were sold. Draw you own conlcusions, but that says to me that most Z06 buyers don't share your enthusiam for the Z16.
Different strokes for different folks. I'm glad you like your car, but two facts remain:
1) The Z16 Z06 outnumbers any other color 2004 Z06 by a large margin.
2) They were plenty of Z16s on dealer lots long after other 2004 Z06s were sold. Draw you own conlcusions, but that says to me that most Z06 buyers don't share your enthusiam for the Z16.
There are other colors out there that where produced in greater quantity over the four year run of the Z06. What's your point? We understand your dislike for the CE, let it go!
Here are the production numbers for all Z06's
TOTAL PRODUCTION 28388
7OU Red (Torch) 6212
41U Black 7809
12U Silver (Quicksilver) 2001-2003 3901
4OU White (Speedway) 2001 Only 352
79U Yellow (Millennium) 4036
21U Blue (Electron) 2002-2003 3086
67U Silver (Machine) (2004 Only) 967
19U LeMans Blue (CE Edition Z16) 2004 2025
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Le Mans Master
Joined: Mar 1999
Posts: 6,692
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From: Troutman, NC
Hey guys, instead of trying to make the Z16’s valuable or less valuable in our own minds by quoting quantities that support our positions, just go out and enjoy the cars. If you bought the car as an investment, you need to have someone else look after your 401K.
Time has its own way of determining the ultimate value of cars, it’s not something we can influence.
Drive it like you're going to die tomorrow!
Time has its own way of determining the ultimate value of cars, it’s not something we can influence.
Drive it like you're going to die tomorrow!
Melting Slicks
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,155
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From: Escondido CA
just my .02- i like the z16-got the wheels on my 01-you can see pics qsz16 wheels on this site somewhere
anyway, i probably would have bought a z16 ,but got a great deal on my 01 private party...and i don't see as many 01's when i'm traveling around or at car shows-so i am happy with my "rare"
01
have fun guys-life is short-enjoy what you got and i like most all vettes..its just the owners ,who sometimes are a little wierd
anyway, i probably would have bought a z16 ,but got a great deal on my 01 private party...and i don't see as many 01's when i'm traveling around or at car shows-so i am happy with my "rare"
01have fun guys-life is short-enjoy what you got and i like most all vettes..its just the owners ,who sometimes are a little wierd
Last edited by bud miller; May 19, 2005 at 12:24 PM.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jul 2000
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From: West Virginia
Originally Posted by Mr.Z-06
Do you plan on bringing your Z up here Sept 4 for the SU/WVU game? Would be nice to meet up.
-Mr.Z-06
-Mr.Z-06
I WILL be bringing the Z16 to Corvettes@Carlisle this year....Will you be there?
Zeeman
Race Director
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From: Slower than a speeding bullet................ Fort Lauderdale, FL
Originally Posted by smook
The reason most chose NOT to get this car was the price. It was $10K more than a regular Z06 2004. -Bill.
Incorrect.... it was about a $4k option. I should know, I have one.
Drifting
Joined: Feb 2002
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From: www.Z16.org Western NY
Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful
Incorrect.... it was about a $4k option. I should know, I have one.
Then in 04, except for January there was $2k and $3k rebates on all Corvettes EXCEPT the Z16 up until June which added to the difference although by April Kerbecks had started discounting by $8K - $9K depending on the week.
Instructor
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: Syracuse NY
Hey Zeeman...
Not sure if I will be there. Definitely would be nice to meet up.
Couple things on SU/WVU. That's probably one of the last big recruits you'll get from NY. Coach P forced kids out of the area. Our new head coach - Greg Robinson has stated that NY is our area now and anybody that wants to go toe-to-toe is welcome to try. He actually said Carroll out at USC wouldn't have a prayer at any big recruits in NY now! Gotta love it. 
He already started recruiting - bringing in two top receivers from Syracuse state champions Christian Brothers Academy at the last second. These guys were supposed to go to Miami, Florida State, etc. Very highly recruited, and our new coach swoops in at the last second when SU wasn't even on the radar.
Also, just announced yesterday - the Dome is having Field Turf installed this summer for the new football season, including practice facilities and new weight/training facility. Big improvements going on within SU. We'll be back on top before long!
Been to Morgantown many times, would be a fun trip next year! (sorry for all the football talk for everyone else reading this
)
Let's Go Orange!!!
Mr.Z-06
Couple things on SU/WVU. That's probably one of the last big recruits you'll get from NY.
Coach P forced kids out of the area. Our new head coach - Greg Robinson has stated that NY is our area now and anybody that wants to go toe-to-toe is welcome to try. He actually said Carroll out at USC wouldn't have a prayer at any big recruits in NY now! Gotta love it. He already started recruiting - bringing in two top receivers from Syracuse state champions Christian Brothers Academy at the last second. These guys were supposed to go to Miami, Florida State, etc. Very highly recruited, and our new coach swoops in at the last second when SU wasn't even on the radar. Also, just announced yesterday - the Dome is having Field Turf installed this summer for the new football season, including practice facilities and new weight/training facility. Big improvements going on within SU. We'll be back on top before long!
Been to Morgantown many times, would be a fun trip next year! (sorry for all the football talk for everyone else reading this
)Let's Go Orange!!!
Mr.Z-06
Last edited by Mr.Z-06; May 20, 2005 at 01:37 PM.
Drifting
Joined: Jul 2004
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From: Gulf of Mexico Florida West Coast
2,025 produced and as of 6/1/04, 18 abroad. The car was a slow seller mid year because on the C5 cancekkation and its price tag. I bought mine simple because I fell the design is actually better than the new ones. merely an opinion. I was surprised that the General offer the la mans blue on the C6 and is becoming one of the most popular colors, whuch sucks for me. Oh Well!
Burning Brakes
Joined: Oct 2014
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From: Artesia NM
You are correct, I don't have a Z16. There were plenty of Z16s on dealer lots when I bought my car new last June, but IMHO the CE is well....ugly. I could have bought a Z16 locally, but drove 100 miles to get a silver Z06. My brother flew from Detroit to New York to buy his Z06, despite plenty of Z16s available locally at the time.
Different strokes for different folks. I'm glad you like your car, but two facts remain:
1) The Z16 Z06 outnumbers any other color 2004 Z06 by a large margin.
2) They were plenty of Z16s on dealer lots long after other 2004 Z06s were sold. Draw you own conlcusions, but that says to me that most Z06 buyers don't share your enthusiam for the Z16.
Different strokes for different folks. I'm glad you like your car, but two facts remain:
1) The Z16 Z06 outnumbers any other color 2004 Z06 by a large margin.
2) They were plenty of Z16s on dealer lots long after other 2004 Z06s were sold. Draw you own conlcusions, but that says to me that most Z06 buyers don't share your enthusiam for the Z16.
Racer
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 442
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From: Bowling Green KY
The Z16 CE may not be a rare Corvette, but it is unique and that alone makes it discernible from other Z06s. It may never be as rare as a ZL-1 or an L-88, but if you consider the fact that all '63 coupes were created as "split windows" they are not really rare either, although still a very desirable car today.
Time has shown that the Z16 CE has held its value quite well over the years since it was produced. I do own one of these cars and I admit to being biased. I did not purchase my Z16 with the prospect of it becoming a rare vehicle. I just liked the look of it. After eleven years of ownership, I still enjoy this car. Being a Z16 owner is like being part of a group within a group, not unlike owning a Grand Sport or a ZR-1. They are unique and recognizable and a little bit different. Just like me.
Time has shown that the Z16 CE has held its value quite well over the years since it was produced. I do own one of these cars and I admit to being biased. I did not purchase my Z16 with the prospect of it becoming a rare vehicle. I just liked the look of it. After eleven years of ownership, I still enjoy this car. Being a Z16 owner is like being part of a group within a group, not unlike owning a Grand Sport or a ZR-1. They are unique and recognizable and a little bit different. Just like me.
Safety Car
Joined: Jan 2000
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From: Orlando FL
Well, I think Realty Check has been proven wrong. Whenever I take the Z16 out, it always gathers attention. If my son and I get together, seeing 2 Z16's side by side really draws the people to the cars.