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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 03:18 AM
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I ordered a cam on a 114 LSA but I'm thinking about going to a 112. Want a mean mean mean sounding car. Do you think I would be able to tell a big difference with a 112 instead of the 114? How does everyone like theirs and what are they? I can sacrifice some driveability for sounding good. I know the difference in horspower is small so I'm just going for sound at idle on this difference.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 03:36 AM
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If its sound your looking for, a 112 lsa will give you a little more lump than the 114.
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my 114 has just a hint of a lope and sounds sweet, the 112 would be better but most likely wont pass smog.
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Wow big CAM. Who made it? Big lift too Are you changing gears too? Good luck!
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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I have a 113 lsa and it is great
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Looking at your sig you have a pretty big duration on that stick and fair amount of lift as well. I guess that thing will sound pretty mean and lope strong enough to make drivabilty a slight issue. Mine cam is on a 114 and has a similar lift and duration. Sounds pretty strong. If you want I could send you a sound clip of mine at idle if you want to hear it.
BTW the cam you list is close to a T-REX cam but on a 114LSA .
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Looking at your sig you have a pretty big duration on that stick and fair amount of lift as well. I guess that thing will sound pretty mean and lope strong enough to make drivabilty a slight issue. Mine cam is on a 114 and has a similar lift and duration. Sounds pretty strong. If you want I could send you a sound clip of mine at idle if you want to hear it.
BTW the cam you list is close to a T-REX cam but on a 114LSA .

Yeah, a sound clip would be nice. restinhi@comcast.net
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Wow big CAM. Who made it? Big lift too Are you changing gears too? Good luck!
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I'm having a local company get the cam for me. Now as far as who is making it, I think it's a Comp cam. Does that sound right? I thought about changing gears since I've heard I would lose some power/torgue, but I can't decide. If anything, I guess everyone says a 3.90 would be the best instead of 4.10's. What's the opinion on that?
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Thats a sweet cam. Why did you decide to get a cam made for you instead of buying one that has already proven to make power (G5X3/TSP's MS3/T REX). I would say get a 112, the trained ear can tell the difference.
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Thats a sweet cam. Why did you decide to get a cam made for you instead of buying one that has already proven to make power (G5X3/TSP's MS3/T REX). I would say get a 112, the trained ear can tell the difference.

That is what I was going to do, but when I talked with a local shop he said he could get me the same cam pretty much and be a little bit cheaper. I understood, sort of that most cams are made from like Comp or the others and than LGM put their touches or something on it and sell them (like the G5X3). He conviced me that he could do the same. We shall see what happens. Not taking anything against the other cams, I guess it was just easier for me to have him get everything I needed instead of parts here and there.
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I called Thunder Racing when I ordered my cam, .575/.563 230'/224'. The tech I spoke with, recommended the 3.90 gear over the 4.10 due to the lighter weight of the ZO6. Hope this helps.

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YEAH, but PITBULL he is going with a MONSTER cam and yours is moderate and he will lose a SIG amount of low end torque and 4.10 is a no brainer for the poster. The fastest Z06s with aggressive heads and and cams (on stock bottom end and cubes) in the U.S. run 4.10 gears. Now for your cam applicatoin and certainly a bolt on Z, 3.90s make more sense. I ran 4.10 in a 03 bolt on Z (100%stock motor) for shi ts and giggles and although it pulled hard like a freigt train and was VERY FAST once traction was going, getting it to hook on stock tires on the street was a JOKE and i had major wheel hop in 1st and 2nd gear.

I also agree with the one poster above to go with a proven cam Ls6 design such as the GX3, T-Rex, Allan Futral grinds, etc., and wish you the best of luck in reaching all your goals!!! You obviously will be doing a lil fly cutting of the pistons with that monster cam and make sure you buy the best DUAL SPRINGS that $ can buy!!!
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Originally Posted by MTI 427 Roadster
YEAH, but PITBULL he is going with a MONSTER cam and yours is moderate and he will lose a SIG amount of low end torque and 4.10 is a no brainer for the poster. The fastest Z06s with aggressive heads and and cams (on stock bottom end and cubes) in the U.S. run 4.10 gears. Now for your cam applicatoin and certainly a bolt on Z, 3.90s make more sense. I ran 4.10 in a 03 bolt on Z (100%stock motor) for shi ts and giggles and although it pulled hard like a freigt train and was VERY FAST once traction was going, getting it to hook on stock tires on the street was a JOKE and i had major wheel hop in 1st and 2nd gear.

I also agree with the one poster above to go with a proven cam Ls6 design such as the GX3, T-Rex, Allan Futral grinds, etc., and wish you the best of luck in reaching all your goals!!! You obviously will be doing a lil fly cutting of the pistons with that monster cam and make sure you buy the best DUAL SPRINGS that $ can buy!!!
Okay, I think I'm going to stick with my 114. Hopefully, I won't have to flycut. The consensus is that with a 114 I won't and a 112, probably would have to. So, next question, MTI, is go with 4.10's instead of the 3.90's?? Will different gears always give me bad wheel hop or should I be okay? Also, how much is labor install averaging for a gear swap? Comp 921 springs are going on....these okay or are there better???
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Okay, I think I'm going to stick with my 114. Hopefully, I won't have to flycut. The consensus is that with a 114 I won't and a 112, probably would have to. So, next question, MTI, is go with 4.10's instead of the 3.90's?? Will different gears always give me bad wheel hop or should I be okay? Also, how much is labor install averaging for a gear swap? Comp 921 springs are going on....these okay or are there better???
Comp 921s are some of the best springs out there and you should be good to go with those springs. I would think you still need to flycut with a 114 lsa with such a big cam on a stock cubed motor, but certainly I don't know that for sure (any nobody probably really does), so MAKE SURE your tuner measures all tolerances so you are POSITIVE you won't have any issues with piston to valve clearance.

With that cam, I would say do the 4.10 gears and don't look back. Let's face it, you will need at least drag radials (even if you stick with stock gears) for hooking up on the street and the track and if you do the 3.90s you will also be thinkinig probably (i should of done the 4.10s). Not that much of a difference and since the fastest h/cam Z06s in the WORLD run 4.10s, I think that's an easy decision (do the 4.10s no doubt). Regardless what gear you run, plan on at least NITTO or BFG DRAGS for tooling around on the street.

Should be a BLAST and best of luck to you!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by MTI 427 Roadster
Comp 921s are some of the best springs out there and you should be good to go with those springs. I would think you still need to flycut with a 114 lsa with such a big cam on a stock cubed motor, but certainly I don't know that for sure (any nobody probably really does), so MAKE SURE your tuner measures all tolerances so you are POSITIVE you won't have any issues with piston to valve clearance.

With that cam, I would say do the 4.10 gears and don't look back. Let's face it, you will need at least drag radials (even if you stick with stock gears) for hooking up on the street and the track and if you do the 3.90s you will also be thinkinig probably (i should of done the 4.10s). Not that much of a difference and since the fastest h/cam Z06s in the WORLD run 4.10s, I think that's an easy decision (do the 4.10s no doubt). Regardless what gear you run, plan on at least NITTO or BFG DRAGS for tooling around on the street.

Should be a BLAST and best of luck to you!!!!!!!!
My thoughts exactly. Not much diff b/w the 4.10 and 3.90. And the 921s are a very good spring. My only personal concern would be the high number of 4.10 gear failures I've seen. But, this might also be the case with the 3.90 gear if more people were using them. I think its a toss up b/w the two gear ratios.
Best of luck with the car. It will be a blast either way.
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Originally Posted by MTI 427 Roadster
Comp 921s are some of the best springs out there and you should be good to go with those springs. I would think you still need to flycut with a 114 lsa with such a big cam on a stock cubed motor, but certainly I don't know that for sure (any nobody probably really does), so MAKE SURE your tuner measures all tolerances so you are POSITIVE you won't have any issues with piston to valve clearance.

With that cam, I would say do the 4.10 gears and don't look back. Let's face it, you will need at least drag radials (even if you stick with stock gears) for hooking up on the street and the track and if you do the 3.90s you will also be thinkinig probably (i should of done the 4.10s). Not that much of a difference and since the fastest h/cam Z06s in the WORLD run 4.10s, I think that's an easy decision (do the 4.10s no doubt). Regardless what gear you run, plan on at least NITTO or BFG DRAGS for tooling around on the street.

Should be a BLAST and best of luck to you!!!!!!!!

100%. 4.10's and 921's. And while they are in the rear, the DTE strut brace is a worthwhile investment as well.
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