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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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For my 25th wedding anniversary my wife ordered me a Chrome alternator and bracket at Carlisle (What a women). I was reading the service mannual on replacing the bracket and is it true that I have to remove the brake pressure modulator valve as one of the steps? If so, I think that's way above the capicity of little ole me. Can anyone help with some tips.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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I've used the service manual quite a few times, and so far, nothing it directed was unwarranted. Where in PA are you? If we're close, maybe a little 'mod' party could be in order.

I get a little nervous doing stuff to the vette alone, just seems like company helps.

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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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You should look a little further into the manual. I do believe the pulley on the alternator bracket is pressed in. So it will need to be pressed out and reinstalled. I am not positive on this but I do believe it is that way. You might want to take Silver up on the offer and get some people with a little more experience to lend a hand.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by EatRice
You should look a little further into the manual. I do believe the pulley on the alternator bracket is pressed in. So it will need to be pressed out and reinstalled. I am not positive on this but I do believe it is that way. You might want to take Silver up on the offer and get some people with a little more experience to lend a hand.
The power steering pulley has to removed with the correct puller to get the bracket off. The ABS brake modulator does have to be removed
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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Thanks gentlemen!!! I thought there might some magic trick where I wouldn't have to remove 8 things to get a 1.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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Hmm, I'm not so sure about that.

Recalling EG's cam swap pics...he had the entire front of the engine stripped down to the bare block, but the brake module was still there, connected, in the pic. How did he do it? (asking because I;m in for this task myself soon).

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Found the pic I was referring to...

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To remove the alternator bracket is a pain in the a$$ but it does not require the ABS to be moved or pulleys to be pressed on/off (unless your new chrome alternator does not come with a pulley - which would suck).

And it is not difficult. You just need patience.

The power steering pump does need to be removed and pushed to one side. There is no need to disconnect any of the PS hoses and be careful not to tip the resevoir over.

The alternator bracket itself is fastened with either 3 or 4 bolts (13mm).

Start by disconnecting your battery, and then releasing your serpentine belt - just push the pulley on the passenger side and remove the belt.

Then remove your old alternator. Long bolt on top and bottom, and power wires on the back. Move it out of the engine bay.

Now remove the bolts holding the Power Steering pump to the engine block. This takes some patience because the bolts are not that easy to get to, but it is not difficult.

When you get the bolts for both the power steering and the alternator bracket out, just reverse your steps and you are done.

It sounds a lot harder than it is to do.

I guess about an hour if you have not worked under the hood before - 20 minutes or less if you have.

Hope this helps.

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So Stephen, if I read this right, you didn't even remove the pulley from the PS pump?

That's a great bit of good news.

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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
So Stephen, if I read this right, you didn't even remove the pulley from the PS pump?

That's a great bit of good news.

Not unless you are changing the Power Steering bracket.

That is a whole different can of worms. The PS pulley almost always breaks when you try to remove that thing

I thought the poster was just doing his alternator and alternator bracket?

<edit> or is it all one bracket? I could have sworn it was two brackets when I did mine <edit>
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Either way, you can still remove the Power Steering bracket without removing the ABS module.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
Not unless you are changing the Power Steering bracket.

That is a whole different can of worms. The PS pulley almost always breaks when you try to remove that thing

I thought the poster was just doing his alternator and alternator bracket?
He is, and if you follow tha service manual for the alt bracket replacement, the steps are (skipping the simple stuff)...

Remove PS reservoir and lines
Remove ABS module
Remove PS pulley
Remove PS pump from alt bracket
Remove alt bracket.

The main difference is that you have removed the PS pump from the alt bracket w/o pulling the pulley. If you don't have to pull the pulley, you obviously don't have to remove the brake module...

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But if you disconnect the PS lines, you can remove the entire bracket with pump and reservoir intact and disassemble on a bench.

Still no need to move the ABS module though.
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Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
But if you disconnect the PS lines, you can remove the entire bracket with pump and reservoir intact and disassemble on a bench.

Still no need to move the ABS module though.
I haven't dug into it yet like you have, so forgive my naiveness, but I too, am just going by the procedures and pics in the service manual.

I was under the impression the PS pump bolts-to-alt bracket were basically impossible to access and remove w/o pulling the pulley (that blocks access to those bolts).

You said they are tough to get to, but can be done. That makes a world of difference, and is the root of all the questioning here.

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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
I haven't dug into it yet like you have, so forgive my naiveness, but I too, am just going by the procedures and pics in the service manual.

I was under the impression the PS pump bolts-to-alt bracket were basically impossible to access and remove w/o pulling the pulley (that blocks access to those bolts).

You said they are tough to get to, but can be done. That makes a world of difference, and is the root of all the questioning here.

I followed the manual I did try to get the bolts out from behind the pulley without removing it. I couldn't do it or didn't want to take all the time to do it
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Yes, the water pump is in the way a little on one of the bolts but you can finagle around that one with an open ended wrench and some patience. But definitely you can remove the entire assembly without removing the ABS. You may have to loosen the ABS to push it a little, but I did not remove mine and I dissembled the entire front.

I will try and find a pic I took of the PS assembly.
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I got an idea, why don't you guys come to my garage and change it out for me and then the questions will be answered.
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