I don't believe everything that commercial america prints on their websites. I will verify with compadres that are still working AT and if this is true, I will certainly apologize. My response was more in knowing privacy within the FBI. They don't communicate with local cops, why would they allow a private for profit company to access computers? I'm sure there are other companies like OnStar that would be taking advantage too or at least suing for the rights to do so. I'll let you know what I find out.

Opinion still hasn't changed. It's a huge waste of money because I wouldn't want a vehicle back that had been stolen. I can also guarantee you that the crooks know how to find and/or disable it. If man installs it, man can defeat it. My son installed some of the best alarms and demonstrated how they can be defeated.

 

[QUOTE=eddie44] ... I will verify with compadres that are still working AT and if this is true, I will certainly apologize. My response was more in knowing privacy within the FBI .... It's a huge waste of money because I wouldn't want a vehicle back that had been stolen. I can also guarantee you that the crooks know how to find and/or disable it ...QUOTE]

Please note that my post never mentioned NCIC or FBI, you brought that in. I do have some concerns about an auto theft investigator who is against a device that has a proven record of arrests and recoveries, especially a device that he apparently knows absolutely nothing about, yet still feels free to offer expert advice. (Maybe this is why Phoenix is #4 in the country for auto thefts.) It may or may not be for everyone, but LoJack does work.

As for the condition of the car when recovered, insurance will generally pay for repairs and a complete detailing if needed. This is probably better than having a car declared a total, especially if much has been spent on modifications.

LoJack is rarely defeated because the thief does not know if it is on the car or where it is and they usually don't want to take the time to look for it. Every car has it placed in a different location. That is why thieves often park the car and come back later.

Hopefully your current investigations are a little more accurate.

 

[QUOTE=C5 Dawg]Great sales pitch but you haven't sold me. What's you commission so we get the truth out here to the consumers?

I don't want a reconstructed POS back from my insurance co. You haven't worked AT if you think anything that's gone more than a few hours won't be totally trashed! That's why I have insurance so I can be made whole again. That doesn't mean get a vehicle back that I'll have problems with the rest of it's life.

I just wish you and every other LoJack sales person could see reality. It's great while you're pushing these to unknowing consumers that pay big $$ for the "security" and then the cops hand them back a POS.

Let's ask the forum if anyone has gotten their vehicle back after having LoJack installed. I'll bet there isn't a one and if there is I bet they were greatly disappointed in the condition it was found in.

Good Night!

 

No commission, 'cuz I don't work for them. If your main concern is truth, you may want to do a little more research before posting. The idea of LoJack is to get the car back early (doesn't always work out that way) before there is damage.

As for reality, again, look over your posts before preaching this. You obviously have no knowledge of LoJack or how it works, yet feel free to bash it. (Did you know LoJack was developed by a cop?)

You may want to reconsider your bet. Ask your RATTlers how many recoveries and arrests they have made through LoJack, then you can possibly give an informed opinion.

 

I know you don't sell them. I was speaking figuratively. I know you work for an insurance company and would love to cut losses by giving poorly repaired vehicles back to your customers. Insurance companies promote this system by giving discounts. Sure they want the vehicle back so they can do repairs to the tune of half what the vehicle is worth and leave it up to the customer to live with. I know your company is the one in the industry that wouldn't think of screwing their customers. Yeah! Yeah!

Just cause it was developed by a cop and sold by cops doesn't make it a great product. I've emailed John Gant the local AZ contact. He's a friend from my days working AT. He was with AZ DPS while I was at Phx. I'll let everyone know the outcome. When I do it will certainly be an "informend" opinion.

 

It's on now!!!!!

 

We look forward to your update. Please remember my initial post was discussing how LoJack works, not the merits of getting your car back vs. losing it. As I said earlier, it is not for everyone, but at least the decisions can be made based on knowledge.

 

 

Here you go sir. The explanation and my apology. It has improved over the years but IMHO it's still a huge waste of money because I never want to see my vehicle again if it's stolen.

Here's John Gants reply

Hey good to hear from you! It’s NCIC, that way it’s “quote” a good stolen, and it’s a nationwide database. Our LoJack database is filled in when the unit is installed in the vehicle. The victim doesn’t even need to know they have LoJack, but when the VIN is entered into NCIC it is routed to our database, finds a match and activates. Works pretty darn good too! Glad your tied up in all the fraud mess and not me! Have a good one. If you were also asking, all the PD’s in Maricopa County (and the SO) have LoJack police tracking computers, but every NCIC stolen vehicle entry through out AZ gets sent and checked against our database, so even if Ashfork PD (if they have one) enters a stolen vehicle, that VIN is checked for a match. Have a great one and keep in touch, or lets meet for coffee!

John Gantt
Arizona Law Enforcement Liaison

Again sir, my apologies!

 

Thank you for checking so quickly and setting the record straight. As for if someone wants there car back, that is an individual decision with pros & cons for both sides of the argument.