Oil Filter Magnets
Melting Slicks
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From: Whidbey Island WA
Originally Posted by Togo
$13 for 1 magnet and 1 drain plug - you're better off with the 87 count pack for $20 plus ship - you can out fit every car in your neighborhood for that amount! 
i'll let you all know how they work out when they arrive!
i'll let you all know how they work out when they arrive!
You're my f*king hero!! Let us know how it all works out.
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From: Glendale, AZ
Originally Posted by torchredfrc
Oops, I noticed they were smaller than the quarter after I posted. I was referring to the ones on the far right in the picture. I don't know if I would feel comfortable putting one of these inside the drain pan (on the end of the plug). To me, that is just asking for trouble... I would hate for the thing to come off in the oil & that would be just my luck.
Matt
Matt
if i'm not mistaken, most drain plug bolts have a lip on the bolt "head" - those smallest magnets should fit nicely in that lip - which is where i plan to put mine.
probably put the largest size on the filter on the "bottom" of the filter - unless someone thinks the bottom would be a bad place - any input???
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Instructor
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From: boise id
I am headed to Hong Kong
I am headed back to Hong Kong this week. I will see how many magnets I can pick up. I will make a post when I return around the 3rd of Dec. I will sell them at cost, you pay the shipping. Look for the Post.
Mike
Mike
Pro
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From: Just North of Buffalo NY
I took the magnets off of a Magnetron tube from a Microwave oven that was scrapped and stuck it on the bottom of the filter. They are incredibly strong and don't fall off. I haven't lost one yet. I don't open up the filter after a change but assume they catch all those little filings/shavings, etc. Ask your local appliance store or servicer for one.
Drifting
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From: Sahuarita AZ
Originally Posted by Togo
Matt - you wouldn't want to put it INSIDE the drain pan - you can put it on the end of the bolt on the outside of the pan.
if i'm not mistaken, most drain plug bolts have a lip on the bolt "head" - those smallest magnets should fit nicely in that lip - which is where i plan to put mine.
probably put the largest size on the filter on the "bottom" of the filter - unless someone thinks the bottom would be a bad place - any input???
if i'm not mistaken, most drain plug bolts have a lip on the bolt "head" - those smallest magnets should fit nicely in that lip - which is where i plan to put mine.
probably put the largest size on the filter on the "bottom" of the filter - unless someone thinks the bottom would be a bad place - any input???
I guess the problem I have with doing this is that it makes the entire bolt magnetic and will probably make shavings collect in the threads. When you take the bolt out, the shavings will probably just end up back in the pan. The magnetic drain plugs you purchase from the dealer havea magnetic tip that is actually inside the pan. When you remove the bolt you see sludge collected on the tip of the plug.
Drifting
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From: Sahuarita AZ
Originally Posted by indy300
I know just enough to be dangerous, so this may be a dumb question:
Will these strong magnets interfere with the electrical system (electromagnetic stuff...) :o
Will these strong magnets interfere with the electrical system (electromagnetic stuff...) :o
I think the location is far enough away from most of the electrical system that it will not interfere.
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From: Glendale, AZ
Originally Posted by torchredfrc
I guess the problem I have with doing this is that it makes the entire bolt magnetic and will probably make shavings collect in the threads. When you take the bolt out, the shavings will probably just end up back in the pan. The magnetic drain plugs you purchase from the dealer havea magnetic tip that is actually inside the pan. When you remove the bolt you see sludge collected on the tip of the plug.
and won't wind up inside the engine somewhere.not to take anything away from your observation, as it sounds like the possibility exists, but i think the benefits of the external magnets would be greater because of their strength - those little suckers are powerful - 400 times their own weight? seems to me that if you dropped a rod, it would get stuck to the drain plug because of the magnet
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Burning Brakes
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From: MA
Here is a really strong one that could attach to the filter side:
http://www.scientificsonline.com/pro...Q_pn_E_3081237
http://www.scientificsonline.com/pro...Q_pn_E_3081237
Le Mans Master
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From: Shiloh Ohio
Originally Posted by torchredfrc
Oops, I noticed they were smaller than the quarter after I posted. I was referring to the ones on the far right in the picture. I don't know if I would feel comfortable putting one of these inside the drain pan (on the end of the plug). To me, that is just asking for trouble... I would hate for the thing to come off in the oil & that would be just my luck.
Matt
Matt
Has someone tried that?
Melting Slicks
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From: Cary NC
Originally Posted by DaBoz
Burning Brakes
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From: Las Cruces New Mexico
Hey Matt, I will buy the set of 87 and share them with you and Reed. I owe Reed after the fiasco with the fuel filter last night?
Reed was actually telling me about this post on one similar to it before you got there. By the way, thanks for all your help changing the exhausts over. We would still be there trying to fix it all.
Allen
Reed was actually telling me about this post on one similar to it before you got there. By the way, thanks for all your help changing the exhausts over. We would still be there trying to fix it all.
Allen
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From: Shiloh Ohio
Originally Posted by scottydog
But aren't oil filters able to filter out metalic particles of the size we're talking about?
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From: Glendale, AZ
Originally Posted by shurite44
Well the only way you would know is to analyze the sludge that they is building up around the magnet area, or maybe a before and after check on the oil. I think I will use them in the future, just as a better safe than sorry philosophy. Maybe one of the guys who analyze their oil will do a before and after oil check. That would be a nice gesture for their forum buddies.
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From: Southwestern PA
Originally Posted by scottydog
But aren't oil filters able to filter out metalic particles of the size we're talking about?
The earlier thread said the metal particles were inside the filter and its possible for them to be in the oil pan too, therefore on the magnetic bolt.
The oil is picked up from the pan, through the filter and then to the bearings, etc. The oil pan is the collection and not the distribution point. So if there is dirt, particles and whatever, your oil filter will catch the gremlins.
I'm going out back to bury some fox crap beneath the full moon so that my battery won't fail.
All fun guys. To each their own.
Last edited by Blindfingers; Nov 23, 2005 at 07:28 PM.
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I think this is one of those relatively cheap and can't hurt type things. I bought an oil filter magnet from JC Whitney about three years ago and just continue to swap it to new filters. It's a black rubber strap with pockets for four magnets and can either be slid off the filter or unhooked. I think I paid around $15 or $16 or so. Like I said, can't hurt.
Racer
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From: Massachusetts
St. Jude Donor '10
I never thought of this idea.
What this is actually doing is allowing the filter to pass more oil through its element(the filter breaths better). this is due to those small metal pieces not getting caught by the filter.
but why would you need the magnet on a "broken" in engine? there should not be much metal to be concerned about.
That said, I will be trying this idea. I want to see what adheres to the filter between now and the next oil change.
What this is actually doing is allowing the filter to pass more oil through its element(the filter breaths better). this is due to those small metal pieces not getting caught by the filter.
but why would you need the magnet on a "broken" in engine? there should not be much metal to be concerned about.
That said, I will be trying this idea. I want to see what adheres to the filter between now and the next oil change.
Pro
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From: Nevada City CA
Originally Posted by Blindfingers
Good point, how do you know the metal particles are getting past the oil filter?
Attaching a magnet won't hurt, but I wouldn't spend money on it. Kind of like inflating tires with nitrogen.
